[Arlo had asked] So inorganic, biological and social patterns are never able to be disharmonious with nature?
[John] Not if left to themselves. Just like pruning your fruit trees in Fukuoka Farming is useless because trees know how to grow if left alone. But once you mess with 'em, you gotta keep messing with them every year. [Arlo] So basically its Eden (everything "harmonious") until "man" comes along with his "intellect" and mucks things up? [John] The cosmos evolved it for a reason, it holds the potential for infinite goodness. But when intellect is bad, its horrid. [Arlo] Can't the same be said for social, biological and inorganic patterns? Reminded of a line from Love and Rocket's "No New Tale to Tell"... "You can not go against nature. Because if you do, go against nature, that's part of nature too." [John] The way I see it is the Third Reich was a social pattern created according intellectual ideas that were bad. See Allen Bloom's Closing of the American Mind for the full argument. [Arlo] OK. What about The Crusades? The Amerindian Genocides? "Harmonious with reality"? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
