[Craig]
These are not good examples.  For instance, an artist (subject) can see his
building a rotisserie as an object of art. There are countless examples of low
quality S/O thinking, 

[Arlo]
I agree with Pirsig that they are good examples. And an "artist", I'd argue,
would not see such a separation, would instead feel a flow or a unity as he and
the rotisserie evolved together. 

[Craig]
MoQ thinking might always be better than S/O thinking, but it doesn't follow
that S/O thinking is low quality. 

[Arlo]
Again, I'm siding with Pirsig on that one. But I think you're focusing on "low
Quality" meaning "no value". I'd take the S/O thinking that followed our
history of being beholden to invisible leprechauns in the sky anyday. But we
can do better. We should do better. We should not settle for a "low quality"
way of thinking just because we associate it with shiny trinkets and baubles. 




>
>just as there are countless examples of low quality MoQ thinking 
>(see archives). 
>You need an example where the low quality is BECAUSE it is 
>S/O thinking (i.e., where S/O thinking could not have had a 
>good quality result.) 
>MoQ thinking might always be better than S/O thinking, but it doesn't 
>follow that S/O thinking is low quality. 
>Craig
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