[John]
> Thus their opposition to reason is a scary thing.  But what a 
> fundamentalist fundamentally believes in is the saving power of Jesus
Christ - and 
> by that I mean,  a certain branding, a marketing idea that sells them
on the 
> idea of themselves.  Shivers.  Basing man's salvation on "reason" is
their 
> idea of heresy.


[Khaled]
Let me ad another thought to that. something I have been debating with
friends for a while.
When you usually ask people across religious lines, "what to you have to
do in order to have a good after life?' whether you believe in
reincarnation or heaven or whatever. Or even to have a good life, the
here and now. You will get answers like: Believe, pray, fast, do good,
help the poor and so on. The  American Fundamentalist answer is not in
what you DO, but who you know. Who you believe your savior is. It's a
small nuance, and they may say do good later in their answer.

So one answer is what I the individual have to DO. Again, effort on my
part, and lots of it is physical efforts, the labors of Hercules. The
fundamentalist's answer is that I really don't have to exert any physical
efforts at all. in fact no mental effort is needed either, no thinking or
reasoning or asking questions. All I have to do in put my faith into
something, and hope for the best in the end.

Khaled
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