Hi John,

I'm not working attached to a particular tradition so I don't have a set 
pattern 
of words to reference.  To explain an unpatterned experience seems impossible, 
too simple for words.   I love words, though, and this morning I woke up with a 
book title, more a variation, on my mind:  the incredible lightness of being.  
I 
suppose it reflects a 'religious' experience I once had.  I thought it was just 
marijuana given to me by a friend of my husband's, but it was much, much 
more.  I can appreciate a trinity, but in the end it falls away as not this, not
that.   


Marsha  





On Mar 23, 2010, at 5:00 PM, John Carl wrote:

> See, the problem to my thinking is that in direct and immediate awareness of
> the moment, there are those three entities as experiential fundaments of my
> being.
> 
> Value sensibility or awareness
> 
> Other
> 
> Valuation or Quality
> 
> 
> ANYthing else that is posited as "preconceptual" or whatever intellectual
> constructs designed to persuade of non-intellectual construction, are
> differing dreams and ideas of men, with differing utility to differing
> individuals.  They can only be taken as important as their relative
> construction of meanings construe.  And positing one particular idea, the
> idea of "preconceptual" as absolute seems to my thinking the least
> ultilitarian and helpful construction as I can imagine.  It's basically a
> moronist view of meaning arising from randomness rather than a playful
> interaction of different players, "I", "Other" and "Valuation"
> 
> ----------


 
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