Purrr-fect... It was a long time ago, but not forgotten.
Thank you, John, the word helper. On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:21 PM, John Carl wrote: > Marsha, > > I agree with your discomfort with "religious". Too many connotations of > social conformity and mass hysteria. > > But "psychological experience", even extreme, is too clinical, objective > and falls short, I think. We could go with "spiritual" but that just so > nebulous and over-used and trite ... Hmmm... How about transcendant? > > Yeah. I like that. "A transcendant experience" I once had. Meaning one > where I was lifted out of my usual context. > > How does that feel? > > John the word helper > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:51 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> I've been feeling extremely uncomfortable about having used the expression >> 'religious experience.' I think I will revise the expression to 'very >> extreme >> psychological experience.' >> >> There, that feels better. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:44 AM, MarshaV wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> I'm not working attached to a particular tradition so I don't have a set >> pattern >>> of words to reference. To explain an unpatterned experience seems >> impossible, >>> too simple for words. I love words, though, and this morning I woke up >> with a >>> book title, more a variation, on my mind: the incredible lightness of >> being. I >>> suppose it reflects a 'religious' experience I once had. I thought it >> was just >>> marijuana given to me by a friend of my husband's, but it was much, much >>> more. I can appreciate a trinity, but in the end it falls away as not >> this, not >>> that. >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 23, 2010, at 5:00 PM, John Carl wrote: >>> >>>> See, the problem to my thinking is that in direct and immediate >> awareness of >>>> the moment, there are those three entities as experiential fundaments of >> my >>>> being. >>>> >>>> Value sensibility or awareness >>>> >>>> Other >>>> >>>> Valuation or Quality >>>> >>>> >>>> ANYthing else that is posited as "preconceptual" or whatever >> intellectual >>>> constructs designed to persuade of non-intellectual construction, are >>>> differing dreams and ideas of men, with differing utility to differing >>>> individuals. They can only be taken as important as their relative >>>> construction of meanings construe. And positing one particular idea, >> the >>>> idea of "preconceptual" as absolute seems to my thinking the least >>>> ultilitarian and helpful construction as I can imagine. It's basically >> a >>>> moronist view of meaning arising from randomness rather than a playful >>>> interaction of different players, "I", "Other" and "Valuation" >>>> >>>> ---------- >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
