Marsha, I agree with your discomfort with "religious". Too many connotations of social conformity and mass hysteria.
But "psychological experience", even extreme, is too clinical, objective and falls short, I think. We could go with "spiritual" but that just so nebulous and over-used and trite ... Hmmm... How about transcendant? Yeah. I like that. "A transcendant experience" I once had. Meaning one where I was lifted out of my usual context. How does that feel? John the word helper On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:51 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi John, > > I've been feeling extremely uncomfortable about having used the expression > 'religious experience.' I think I will revise the expression to 'very > extreme > psychological experience.' > > There, that feels better. > > > Marsha > > > > > On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:44 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > > > > Hi John, > > > > I'm not working attached to a particular tradition so I don't have a set > pattern > > of words to reference. To explain an unpatterned experience seems > impossible, > > too simple for words. I love words, though, and this morning I woke up > with a > > book title, more a variation, on my mind: the incredible lightness of > being. I > > suppose it reflects a 'religious' experience I once had. I thought it > was just > > marijuana given to me by a friend of my husband's, but it was much, much > > more. I can appreciate a trinity, but in the end it falls away as not > this, not > > that. > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 23, 2010, at 5:00 PM, John Carl wrote: > > > >> See, the problem to my thinking is that in direct and immediate > awareness of > >> the moment, there are those three entities as experiential fundaments of > my > >> being. > >> > >> Value sensibility or awareness > >> > >> Other > >> > >> Valuation or Quality > >> > >> > >> ANYthing else that is posited as "preconceptual" or whatever > intellectual > >> constructs designed to persuade of non-intellectual construction, are > >> differing dreams and ideas of men, with differing utility to differing > >> individuals. They can only be taken as important as their relative > >> construction of meanings construe. And positing one particular idea, > the > >> idea of "preconceptual" as absolute seems to my thinking the least > >> ultilitarian and helpful construction as I can imagine. It's basically > a > >> moronist view of meaning arising from randomness rather than a playful > >> interaction of different players, "I", "Other" and "Valuation" > >> > >> ---------- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
