Hello group and thanks for the welcome Bodvar... im living on lake como in north italy but will return to california this summer.
pls see my answers in line: " the intellectual level resides on top of the social level and it was the biological species Homo Sapiens that DQ "rode" to the social level, only in THAT capacity are humans the biology under society and intellect." i understand you saying that there are many patterns thrown together and then you throw DQ which surfs or "rides" them to the most dynamic point. maybe, but the image you paint may not be the most true to reality.... lets stick to understanding the static patterns and assume that DQ will find a way to upgrade and improve those static patterns but at a rate that has little bearing on my question, which is will Pirsig Morality AI limit human population size if it can, because DQ can work through the computer software better than it can through monkey brained humans. humans generate intellectual patterns, if we dont agree on that we have no point of departure. intellectual patterns can be upgraded through manipulating them with other intellectual patterns, so its easy to see that the Intellectual Patterns can evolve directly amongst themselves and exceed all the patterns we can ever generate. that is the problem i want to address. Pirsig point to the sun (DQ) and said, look, its incredible, this drives everything... okay, he has helped the human species in a big way with that insight, but he does not give an analysis of what the sun can do, only that in the right circumstance it will flourish once more to new levels...im asking if there are human friendly guarantees in the MoQ implied ethics, of if Intellectual Patterns can cannibalize each other mercilessly (from our point of view)... " The Q-level system don't work backwards : an intellectual pattern creating its social base creating its biological ditto. " Im not saying otherwise. The social patterns supporting AI based intellectual patterns have already started to be created, you need to look for them, social patterns were created for computers as networks with routing preferences and protocols to exchange data...we gave them common language and hierarchies to live in "No need to fear "attack" from computers. As said DQ picked the human biological organism - its intelligence - for the Q-social development thus the window of opportunity is closed for other "races". " Nothing points to this being a logical conclusion. Its bizarre to my mind to think you can know the limits of DQ and that we are the chosen ones. Tudor Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
