Hi Marsha,

You've pinpointed the essence of the MOQ that the philosophologists 
either ignore or haven't a clue. Thanks for your usual acumen in getting 
to the point quickly, succinctly and accurately. 

You are indeed very wise.

Platt 



On 17 Apr 2010 at 14:10, MarshaV wrote:

> Arlo
> 
> 
> "The question of "How do you justify the statement that Quality 
> equals reality?" was the best one. The correct answer from a 
> MOQ perspective is, "by the harmony it produces", but this 
> answer is only for people who already understand the MOQ. 
> Those who don't can't see the harmony and for them this 
> answer is meaningless."
>     (Pirsig,2000)  
> 
> Maybe it's a designation and an explanation.  Two truths...   
> 
> 
> Marsha
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 17, 2010, at 1:54 PM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:
> 
> > [Marsha]
> > The MoQ is a designation for Reality equals Quality.  Do you agree?
> > 
> > [Arlo]
> > Not exactly. 
> > 
> > "The Metaphysics of Quality, or MOQ, is simply a philosophic answer to the
> > question of what is Quality, or worth, or merit, or value, or betterness or 
> > any
> > of the other synonyms for good. There are many possible answers but the one 
> > the
> > MOQ gives is that you can understand Quality best if you don't subordinate 
> > it
> > to anything else but instead subordinate everything else to it. " (Pirsig)
> > 
> > It is an intellectual pattern developed around the pre-intellectual concept 
> > of
> > Quality. "The Metaphysics of Quality itself is static and should be 
> > separated
> > from the Dynamic Quality it talks about. " (Pirsig)
> > 
> > The MOQ IS Pirsig's attempt to build an academic, intellectual framework 
> > around
> > this primary, pre-intellectual Quality. "Reality equals Quality" is one of 
> > the
> > intellectual principles of the MOQ. 
> > 
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