mr carl quoting Penrose is comic on many levels. Penrose is missing the whole Wolfram demonstration of emergent complexity that is beyond mathematics (the book is called a New Kind of Science and all 1200 pages are now online), and results from some of the SIMPLEST rules we can model. Horse correctly points out its been dismissed by modern cognitive computing research as simply epiphenomenal at best, a distraction at worst.
We dont need to understand quantum gravity to know how a cell is alive, we dont need quantum mechanics to understand how the eye works. AI will emulate the whole complement of human self awareness subroutines within 2 decades at the most. Opinions from non domain experts are actually not worth very much, because equally smart people have spent more time looking at the problem and have tested the intuitive insights a while back, there is real progress occurring today, but that means keeping up with the pace of discovery. Anyway, we moved to genetically modified super intelligent humans as the example in order to overcome the tendencies of the anti-AI crowd, the discuss is identical as it pertains to the morality of MoQ. The deepest question is how much compassion does MoQ remove were we to consistently to implement it. Cheers, tudor Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
