I guess we can agree then that Marx was an anti-intellectual.

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:58 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> Platt said:
> The quotes from Wiki used here are challenged on their sites. In the case
> of anti-intellectualism, its "neutrality is disputed." One would think an
> honest intellectual would include that caveat. But alas . . .
>
>
> dmb says:
>
> Yea, any Wikipedia article that touches on controversial topics like
> politics will have such a caveat. I think it goes without saying because
> everybody already knows that.
>
> The question is, does the article on anti-intellectualism actually describe
> what we see and hear?
>
> Sure it does. It describes what anti-intellectuals say around here just
> about every day. That wikipedia page should have your picture on it.
>
> The article also supports the Pirsigian contention that fascism and other
> forms of social level authoritarianism are driven by anti-intellectualism
> above all.
>
> Oh yea, I forgot. You and Bo don't care what Pirsig thinks. He's only an
> expert on the MOQ and anti-intellectuals don't respect expertise.
>
> Nevermind.
>
>
> > > dmb quotes Wiki:
> > >
> > > An expert is someone widely recognized as a reliable source of
> technique or
> > > skill whose faculty for judging or deciding rightly, justly, or wisely
> is
> > > accorded authority and status by their peers or the public in a
> specific
> > > well-distinguished domain. An expert, more generally, is a person with
> > > extensive knowledge or ability based on research, experience, or
> occupation
> > > and in a particular area of study. Experts are called in for advice on
> their
> > > respective subject, but they do not always agree on the particulars of
> a
> > > field of study. An expert can be, by virtue of credential, training,
> > > education, profession, publication or experience, believed to have
> special
> > > knowledge of a subject beyond that of the average person, sufficient
> that
> > > others may officially (and legally) rely upon the individual's opinion.
> > > Historically, an expert was referred to as a sage (Sophos). The
> individual
> > > was usually a profound thinker distinguished for wisdom and sound
> judgment.
> > > Experts have a prolonged or intense experience through practice and
> > > education in a particular field. In specific fields, the definition of
> > > expert is well established by consensus and therefore it is not
> necessary
> > > for an individual to have a professional or academic qualification for
> them
> > > to be accepted as an expert. In this respect, a shepherd with 50 years
> of
> > > experience tending flocks would be widely recognized as having complete
> > > expertise in the use and training of sheep dogs and the care of sheep.
> > > Another example from computer science is that an expert system may be
> taught
> > > by a human and thereafter considered an expert, often outperforming
> human
> > > beings at particular tasks. In law, an expert witness must be
> recognized by
> > > argument and authority.
> > > Research in this area attempts to understand the relation between
> expert
> > > knowledge and exceptional performance in terms of cognitive structures
> and
> > > processes. The fundamental research endeavor is to describe what it is
> that
> > > experts know and how they use their knowledge to achieve performance
> that
> > > most people assume requires extreme or extraordinary ability. Studies
> have
> > > investigated the factors that enables experts to be fast and
> accurate.[1]
> > >
> > >
> > > Anti-intellectualism is the hostility towards and mistrust of
> intellect,
> > > intellectuals, and intellectual pursuits, usually expressed as the
> derision
> > > of education, philosophy, literature, art, and science, as impractical
> and
> > > contemptible. In public discourse, anti-intellectuals usually perceive
> and
> > > publicly present themselves as champions of the common folk — populists
> > > against political elitism and academic elitism — proposing that the
> educated
> > > are a social class detached from the quotidian concerns of the
> majority, and
> > > that they dominate political discourse and higher education.
> > > As a political adjective, anti-intellectual variously describes an
> > > education system emphasising minimal academic accomplishment, and a
> > > government who formulate public policy without the advice of academics
> and
> > > their scholarship.
> > >
> > > Dictators, and their dictatorship supporters, use anti-intellectualism
> to
> > > gain popular support, by accusing intellectuals of being a socially
> > > detached, politically-dangerous class who question the extant social
> norms,
> > > who dissent from established opinion, and who reject nationalism, hence
> they
> > > are unpatriotic, and thus subversive of the nation. Violent
> > > anti-intellectualism is common to the rise and rule of authoritarian
> > > political movements, such as Italian Fascism, Soviet Stalinism in
> Russia,
> > > Nazism in Germany, the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia, and Iranian theocracy,
> en
> > > route to establishing the national totalitarianism.
> > > In the 20th century, intellectuals were systematically demoted or
> expelled
> > > from the power structures, and, occasionally, assassinated. In
> Argentina,
> > > the biochemist César Milstein reports that when the military usurped
> > > Argentine government via the 1962 coup d’État, they declared that “our
> > > countries would be put in order, as soon as all the intellectuals who
> were
> > > meddling in the region were expelled”. In Brazil, the educator Paulo
> Freire
> > > was banished for being ignorant, according to the organizers of the
> coup d’
> > > État of the moment.[1]
> > > Extreme ideological dictatorships, such as the Khmer Rouge regime in
> > > Kampuchea (1975–79), killed potential opponents with more than
> elementary
> > > education. In achieving their Year Zero social engineering of Cambodia,
> they
> > > assassinated anyone suspected of “involvement in free-market
> activities”.
> > > The suspected Cambodian populace included professionals and almost
> every
> > > educated man and woman, city-dwellers, and people with connections to
> > > foreign governments. Doctrinally, the Maoist Khmer Rouge designated the
> > > farmers as the true proletariat, as the true representatives of the
> working
> > > class, hence the anti-intellectual purge. (cf. Great Proletarian
> Cultural
> > > Revolution, 1966–76)
> > > Governmental anti-intellectualism ranges from closing public libraries
> and
> > > public schools, to segregating intellectuals in an Ivory Tower ghetto,
> to
> > > official declarations that intellectuals tend to mental illness, thus
> > > facilitating psychiatric imprisonment, then scapegoating to divert
> popular
> > > discontent from the dictatorship (vide the USSR and Fascist Italy, cf.
> > > Antonio Gramsci).
> > > Moreover, anti-intellectualism is neither always violent, nor
> oppressive,
> > > because most any social group can exercise contempt for intellect,
> > > intellectualism, and education. To wit, the Uruguayan writer Jorge
> Majfud
> > > said that “this contempt, that arises, from a power installed in the
> social
> > > institutions, and from the inferiority complex of its actors, is not a
> > > property of ‘underdeveloped’ countries. In fact, it is always the
> critical
> > > intellectuals, writers, or artists who head the top-ten lists of ‘The
> Most
> > > Stupid of the Stupid’ in the country.” [2]
> > >
> > >
> > >
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