Craig, I don't think of Quality as higher than "what we value". I look at "what we value" as Quality.
Premises and concepts can only arise if they are valued. They only persist if valued. Thus, valuation itself is presupposed by premises and concepts. "Valuation itself" is Quality. By my metaphysical formulations and understandings, existence is experience. Experience is a triadic relation of self/other/valuation. Is where I'm at in my thinking. Pirsig makes the claim that valuation ontologically precedes self/other realization and that makes sense to me. Ham makes the claim that valuation is only realized by a self/other dichotomy - which also makes sense to me. I have a very promiscuous philosophy on my hands, but I'll get her to settle down someday. I hope. John On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > [Bo] > > Quality must be higher than intellect because we > > value our premises and concepts. > > > . > [Platt] > > the clincher argument for Bo's argument about the true nature of the MOQ. > > > . > [John] > > here is the heart and soul of the MoQ > > . > I don't think Bo's quote supports his view that intellect = S/O, > rather the opposite, since the quote implies that > intellect = premises and concepts. > But is the argument itself any good? > P1) We value our premises and concepts. > C1) :. Quality must be higher than intellect. > Obviously, the argument is invalid as it stands. It needs some further > premises such as: > P2) Intellect = premises and concepts. > P3) Quality must be higher than what we value. > So the whole argument: > P1) We value our premises and concepts. > P2) Intellect = premises and concepts. > C0) :. We value our intellect. > P3) Quality must be higher than what we value. > C1) :. Quality must be higher than intellect. > What is the support for P3 & why is it the "heart and soul of the MoQ"? > > > > Craig > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
