it's also my understanding the Buddha includes 'find out for yourself'  


On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:33 PM, X Acto wrote:

> sounds like nothing but an objective opinion about the teachings of the buddha
> not the buddha
> 
> 
> 
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> From: MarshaV <[email protected]>
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> Sent: Tue, April 27, 2010 4:12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Buddhism's s/o
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> 
> To recap why I think Buddhism cannot be used as an exception to 
> the Intellectual Level being SOM, I offer these to quotes that indicate
> that Buddhism used logic and the scientific method for an objective
> study of 'Mind'.  
> 
> 
> "... So at the beginning, in the middle and at the end of the Buddha's path, 
> observation plays an extremely important role.  This is similar to the role 
> that 
> objective observation plays in the scientific tradition which teaches that 
> when 
> we observe a problem we first formulate a general theory followed by specific 
> hypothesis. We find the same thing happening in the teaching of the Four 
> Noble Truths and here the general theory is that all things have a cause, 
> and the specific hypothesis is that the causes of suffering are craving and 
> ignorance."
> 
> "  Experience in Buddhism is comprised of two components - the objective 
> component and the subjective component.  In other works, the things around 
> us and we the perceivers.  Buddhism is noted for its analytical method in the 
> area of philosophy and psychology.  What we mean by this is that the Buddha 
> analyzes experience into various elements, the most basic of these being the 
> five Skandhas or aggregates - form, feeling, perception, mental formation or 
> volition and consciousness.  The five aggregates in turn can be analyzed 
> into the eighteen elements (Dhatus) and we have a still more elaborate 
> analysis in terms of seventy two elements.  This method is analytical 
> as it breaks up things.  We are not satisfied with a vague notion of 
> experience, 
> but we analyze it, we probe it, we break it down into its component parts 
> like 
> we break down the chariot into the wheels, the axle and so on.  And we do 
> this in order to get an idea how things work. When we see for instance a 
> flower, or hear a piece of music, or meet a friend, all these experiences 
> arise as a result of components.  This is what is called the analytical 
> approach.  
> And again this analytical approach is not at all strange to modern science 
> and 
> philosophy."
> 
> 
>   (Peter D. Santina, 'Fundamentals of Buddhism',BAUS)
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