Marsha asked dmb:
On what basis does your "I think" of agreement with Arlo exist?  By mistaken 
identity!


dmb says:

If you think "I" cannot agree without basing it on SOM, then you are one 
seriously mixed up cat.
Now anyone who uses a personal pronoun is committed to the notion that reality 
is made up of two ontologically separate categories? If that's not reaching, 
Lance Armstrong was the first man on the moon.   
 
> > Arlo said (repeatedly):
> > 
> > 
> > .., if all intellectual patterns are SOM, what exactly was Pirsig lamenting 
> > in ZMM? If "intellect" can be nothing else but SOM, then what's the beef 
> > with Aristotle? And those Sophists, they were peddling SOM too.
> > ... I think that calling "intellect" nothing but SOM achieves this. It puts 
> > intellect as a whole as a cancerous element atop society, it makes 
> > "intellect" at best something to be overcome in an otherwise harmonious 
> > evolution. Of course intellect should have moral dominance over society, 
> > but I think Pirsig's point of asking "was this the pattern intellect was 
> > going to run with?" shows that intellect-as-SOM is the problem.
> > 
> > 
> > dmb says:
> > 
> > I think that's exactly right. SOM is the flaw, the disease and is not to be 
> > confused with the patient. That's what happens when you equate SOM with the 
> > intellect level; instead of saying the patient HAS cancer you say the 
> > patient IS cancer. You don't have to be a doctor to see what a huge mistake 
> > that is.                                            
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