HI gang( JC) I believe in community, which you might think puts me on the opposite side of you on this debate, but I'm actually opposed to national social programs of control. The only appropriate socialism is local - people of the same discrete biome taking care of themselves and their families and their neighbors. Why should people all across America pay taxes so Californians can have the highest welfare benefits in the country? The inherent unfairness of liberalism actually promotes local individual autonomy.
This will not put you on the opposite side JC. The model you are displaying here is a likable model,and what you are saying here makes sense. But , liberalism and individual autonomy as in your perception, and Americas perception is very different from liberalism, and individual autonomy, in Europe , or Belgium. I will try to give you some examples for the correct perception. Belgium = democracy voting is an obligation,can't escape from voting , the fine's are very high. how can one have a democracy, if the free will to vote or not to vote is taken out of the model? welfare in the aftermath of WW2 there were two categorys of welfarepayments , orphans and widows.... seemed fair as a proposal from the socialists in that days,.... orphans and widows all over the place. TODAY; there are actually 58 categorys of welfarebenefits.it never ends. If i have more time, i will reflect some more, i'm training a lot now (bicycle) i do about 450 miles a week. and thats a working week+ weekend.Pure fun, all Quality. building up to the max. Greetzz Adrie Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
