Bo,
Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned experience)! To associate your statements with a symbol of the Catholic transubstantiation was I thought a limp attempt to discredit you. Marsha On Jun 27, 2010, at 1:43 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Marsha and Andre. > > 27 June.: > > Andre previously: >> Bodvar says: nonsense the MOQ = Reality; the wafer = the body of >> christ. The wafer = my experience of christ. Good luck Bodvar. > >> Marsha: >> Limp, limp, limp... > > Andre has a point. When on the social level - and on the religon > pattern - the wafer IS the body of Christ, while on the intellectual level > it is an objective piece of bread imposed with subjective symbolic > quality . This reflects Christendom's migration from an all-social > pattern to an intellect-influenced one. I kind of feel sorry for > Christendom because from intellect's S/O view it just looks like a slow > succumbing to secularism while Islam stands out like much a more > "brave" faith, what makes some fools convert (at least in this country) > taking on some Arabic-sounding middle name and donning the hijab > (head scarf) *) see footnote > > In the other words, when each level was "leading edge" it was > REALITY - no symbolism. Once biology's dog-eat-dog morality was > the highest and best, then came the social development where the > various mythologies soon formed and the afterlife in Valhalla or among > the Ancestors was no symbolic something it, it was REALITY itself. > Then the intellectual development and the conviction that we only have > subjective access to the objective world and now the intellect- > interpreters of the MOQ are dead sure of it being another subjective > theoretical - now called "static" - interpretation of an objective - now > called "Quality" - reality. > > What's for sure is that the Quality Reality will have as many facets as > SOM had and the example of the wafer as Christ's body on the social > level and as mere matter (with symbolic quality) on the intellectual - > i.e. all levels having had their hey-day as top notch and as such what > defines reality - is just one among an infinite number of ways to see it. > Looking back; After having entered the intellectual reality the effected > mankind were still social beings, but their societies were fundamentally > changed by their knowing the higher context and - likewise - after > having entered the Quality Reality we will still be intellectual beings but > that level will be fundamentally altered by the knowledge. But alas this > will be a long haul, the majority of this discussion seems hell bent on > the intellectual, symbolic MOQ, > > Bodvar > > > *) This is another example of MOQ's explanatory power, but also an > example that t it must be SOL-interpreted to achieve that power. > > ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
