ANDRE, As far as I know intellectual patterns are as:
Intellectual Static Patterns of Value are reified concepts and the rules for their rational analysis and manipulation. Intellectual patterns create false boundaries, giving the illusion of independence, or 'thingness'. The fourth level is a formalized subject/object level where the subjective is supposedly stripped from the experience. And I have seen no evidence to the contrary. Have you presented an intellectual pattern that transcends a subject/object representation of reality, excluding art which may use intellectual patterns but also makes use of inorganic, biological and social patterns and often goes beyond. Where is YOUR evidence and demonstration, Andre? Let's see YOU demonstrate an intellectual pattern that does not reify concepts, that does not create a self involved in analyzing such concepts, or does not represent the rules for such manipulation? You cannot present and demonstrate such a pattern, because the minute you've begun you have divided and formed an object and an analyzing self. Dont' use John as an excuse. You present something. Not art, because RMP has stated that art includes all the levels. Not motorcycle maintenance because, while such a process requires intelligence, it is not a intellectual pattern. More important to motorcycle maintenance would be great attention to the task at hand. Not Zen because Zen represents long hours of meditation which is a non-intellectual process. Come on Andre... Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
