Hi Ham and All,

A metaphysics is a system of logic.  Pirsig has a new insight into logic.

SOM suggested that logic had to include an acceptance of a division in existence between subjective existence and objective existence. This is very clumsy as subjective existence is unverifable by an outside party and any decision following a dialog between people wishing to communicate is guesswork. In the logic of mathematics there is no S only O. In mathematics, evolution is denied unless you accept a dual basis for logic: DQ/SQ. When 1 is defined logic is impeccable. When 1 is undefned, logic looks to evolution for
indefineable individuation.  Mathematics is simply another tool.

DQ/SQ, Persig declares DQ is not unverifiable by another, it is simply undefined. Sameness in experience on a mataphysical level is a common thread between people. The metaphysical argument does not depend on guesswork about existence SOM, but rather a clarification of experience, MOQ. To verify an individuals' experience in MOQ everyone has to go through the same process of clarifying what is undefined in their experience. Pirsig shifted the burden from verifying logic from a "he says she says" situation to an
agreement about levels in existence, evolution

In your FUNDAMENTAL TENETS OF ESSENTIALISM: you have to rely on
logic for veracity with no rules extablished. Opinion rules. Who can doubt your experience?

My hope for logic follows DQ/SQ in evolution!

Joe

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ham Priday" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Essentials for target practice


MOQers All --


As defining the MOQ fundamentals appears to be the hottest game on MD currently, this may be a good time to present some of my own for your consideration. Following Platt's example (thought of the day, etc.), I've come up with a dozen maxims or tenets that are central to the Philosophy of Essence. I'm interested in seeing which of them you folks find acceptable or unacceptable, and how unanimous your reactions are. (This will also help me determine whether continued participation in this forum is worth your time or mine.)

In developing this "12-point manifesto", I've deliberately avoided the "special terms" indigenous to both philosophies. Any tenet, however, may be regarded as "controversial" in some way.

Feel free to "fire away".  I'll keep score.


FUNDAMENTAL TENETS OF ESSENTIALISM:

1)  Nothing comes from nothingness.

2)  Nothing creates itself (i.e., brings itself into existence)..

3)  Existence is the appearance of differentiated otherness.

4) All appearance--including divisions, relations, and movement--is the affect of an uncreated source.

5) The primary difference is the provisional separation of proprietary sensibility from the
    undivided source.

6) Life is an individual experience the essence of which is value-sensibility.

7) Cognizant awareness, feeling, knowledge, interpretation, intellection, and realization are proprietary to the individual.

8)  Experience is the objective representation of value realized.

9)  Unrealized value does not exist.

10) Man is a "free agent" in that he has the innate capacity to act in accordance with his proprietary value orientation.

11) All truth is relative. Access to "absolute truth" is inimical to individual freedom.

12) Wisdom is not factual knowledge but the ability to realize the value of experience.

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Thanks for responding.

--Ham

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