Hello John, I think this is also a good way to interpret RMP's words.
Marsha On Jun 28, 2010, at 4:07 PM, John Carl wrote: > Marsha and Craig, > > I also agree but I thought I'd share how this formulation struck me when I > first read it... > > Intellectual formulations are static responses to past experience. With > time, they become obsolete. When we "kill" all intellect, we are re-opening > ourselves to what is good in the moment. > > Some intellectual patterns will reassert themselves because they're good > (Quality is served) > > Some will reassert because they're too embedded and we haven't gone deep > enough. > > And some will die out completely to be replaced by something better that we > can't see while blinded by the "intellectual glasses" of present knowledge. > > Killing all intellect is a supreme act of faith - faith that what is good > will re-install. > > Take care, > > John > > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:00 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:45 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> [Marsha] >>>> RMP is vey, very clear where he writes: >>> "While sustaining biological and social patterns >>> Kill all intellectual patterns. >>> Kill them completely >>> And then follow Dynamic Quality >>> And morality will be served." >>> (LILA, Chapter 32) >>> . >>> What is clear is that RMP means for us to abandon preconceived notions >>> and examine our ideas anew. He does not mean for us to forego >>> intellectual patterns forever. (He advocates intellectual level control >>> over the social level.) >> >> >> Craig, >> >> I think you are correct, and I do agree. But there is >> something to be gained by killing those intellectual >> patterns for a while. There is an important comparison >> to be realized: unpatterned/patterned. It's not what >> you think. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Arlo previously] >>>> What about the social pattern of slavery? >>> >>> [Marsha] >>>> This is not a now event. >>> >>> . >>> O if only this were true. Slavery is still a problem (e.g., child slaves, >>> sex slaves, slavery between tribes/religions.) >>> . >>> "Remember that the central reality of the >>> MOQ is not an object or a subject or anything else." >>> (RMP, notes 132, 133 in LC) >>> >>> . >>> Pirsig here refers to Quality (= "the central reality of the >>> MOQ"), not the MoQ itself. >>> Craig >>> ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
