dmb said:
I think things get heated because it is so frustrating to witness the dismissal
of this kind of evidence. The meaning is so explicit and so clear that there is
just no way a reasonable person could reject it. And so you get accusations of
stupidity and intellectual dishonesty as a reaction to that rejection. Anybody
can make a mistake and we all have lots to learn but when these explanations
have to be repeated over and over and over again - for years in some cases -
people run out of patience. They get frustrated. That's just a natural reaction
and the insulting conclusions reached about this stubbornness is not crazy, you
know? Sadly, it's probably true. There might be other things going on too, but
dishonesty and ignorance really would explain this persistent pattern of
behavior. If anyone has a better explanation, I'd like to hear it.
Platt replied:
Apply DMB's tirade to dismissal of the following evidence.
"What had happened since the end of World War I was that the INTELLECTUAL LEVEL
had entered the picture and had taken over EVERYTHING. It was this INTELLECTUAL
LEVEL level that was screwing everything up." (Lila, 24 - caps added)
dmb says:
Sigh. How many times have we been through this already? Way too many. For the
144th time, Pirsig's complaint is that intellect HAS a defect and NOT that it
IS a defect. You're trying to kill the patient but Pirsig only wants to heal
the patient. Big Difference. Quite opposite, in fact.
To reach your conclusion, one would have to ignore all the other things Pirsig
has said about intellect, including the statement wherein he tells you flat out
that he disagrees with your conclusion about intellect.
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