On 1 Jul 2010 at 21:03, Horse wrote: > OK - if you refuse to understand, fair enough. > There are none so blind as those who will not see.
[Platt] You are so right. The meaning of censorship is crystal clear. > > On 01/07/2010 20:43, Platt Holden wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horse" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:18 PM > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Mythos-Logos issue. > > > > > > Hi Platt > > > > You're quite wrong. There is no censorship going on here or enforcement > > of purity of thought or whatever other rhetorical mangling you care to > > mention. > > > > Hi Horse, > > Definitions from Random House Webster's College Dictionary: > > > > censor, n. 1. an official who examines literature, television > > programs, etc., for the purpose of suppressing or deleting parts > > deemed objectionable on moral, political, military, or other grounds. > > > > censorship, n. 1. the act or practice of censoring. > > > > Rhetorical mangling? Not. You can run but you cannot hide from your > > threat to censor Bo. > > > > Regards, > > Platt. > > . > > > > > > On 01/07/2010 14:43, [email protected] wrote: > >> Hi Horse, > >> > >> Oh, oh. The spectre of censorship arises. Now the arbiters of "the > >> truth" threaten. Does your warning to sentence Bo to Siberia also > >> apply to me, Mary, Marsha and others who are at least willing to > >> entertain the idea that the Pirsig may be wrong? > >> > > > > I see - you're comparing me to the Russian Communists by the above > > comments. I hope Mary is reading this and will admonish you in the same > > way that she admonished me. Somehow I doubt it. > > What I have said to Bo applies to all with regard to the SOL issue but > > as it is Bo's baby, it was addressed to him. > > I have no objections to you or anyone else being willing to say that you > > believe Pirsig is wrong - I have also disagreed with some of what Pirsig > > has said. What I have stated that I object to is Bo's continual and > > deceitful attempts to say that Pirsig is the originator of the SOL > > (untrue) and that Pirsig supports the the idea that SOM (S/O etc.) = > > Intellectual level (also untrue), along with other false statements > > regarding Pirsig's support for the SOL. > > > >> Enforcement of purity of thought smacks of the totalitarian mind. > > > > It does, you're right, and for this reason I would never do such a thing > > as you know only too well. > > > >> And Pirsig would be the last person in the world to say you must > >> agree with him or else > >> you are persona non grata. > >> > > > > And Bo should be the first person to say that Pirsig has stated that he > > doesn't agree with Bo's SOL interpretation of the MoQ. Pirsig has said > > this and if Bo continues to ignore what Pirsig has said and say the > > opposite then he's a liar. He's also being maliciously deceitful and > > this is why I am asking him to cease his lies and deceptions. > > > >> I urge you to reconsider your position. > > > > There is no need to reconsider my position - my position is as clear as > > Pirsigs position regarding the SOL. Bo must stop the deception and > > distortion. It's wrong and to continue is similarly wrong. > > > > > >> No doubt your motive is well intentioned, > > > > You know perfectly well that it is Platt and I'm also sure that you know > > what I'm saying makes sense and is the right thing to do. > > By all means support Bo's idea that SOM (S/O etc.) = Intellectual level > > - just stop saying that this is Pirsigs position or that he is the > > originator of the SOL or similar such nonsense. Is that asking too much? > > > >> but please consider that censorship violates the "moral right of > >> intellect to be free of social control" -- a basic tenet of the MOQ. > >> > > > > Another basic tenet of the MoQ is that lies, dishonesty and deliberate > > deception to achieve ones intellectual ends is a violation of the good. > > Bo is guilty of this and needs to re-evaluate his position. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Horse > > > > > > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > - Frank Zappa > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
