On 2010-07-19 11:17, MarshaV wrote:
Sight at its very least is not about identified objects, only form and
color. But one can experience sight sans even form and color too.
It is ALL conceived. It's useful and I wouldn't throw away any but the
arrogance of thinking the "real" has been realized.
Arrogance is there in SOM, yes, because in SOM, there's no other
relationship between the perceived object in your head and the object
observed.
But in MoQ, we know that there *is* a direct dependency from our
internal image of the object, to the reality of the object via the
levels. I'm not saying that your brain is supported by *that* stone, but
I'm saying that your brain is supported by inorganic patterns just
*like* a stone.
So, in SOM, ALL is conceived. But in MoQ, where we have the level
dependency and know that our internal "minds" are supported by inorganic
patterns, we can know that there are inorganic patterns. From there, I
don't think it's arrogant anymore to give the stone a status of real.
Magnus
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