On Jul 19, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Magnus Berg wrote: > Hi Marsha and Craig > > I'm with Craig on this. I'd like to rephrase Marsha's: > > "Pluto is real if man measures it to be real" > > into > > "Pluto is real to man, if man measures it to be real" > > That "to man" is not an underlying assumption of the MoQ, but some here seem > to think it is. > > Also, to restart the answer without involving Pluto, then yes, there is a > direct relationship from inorganic patterns all the way up to the > intellectual patterns required for thinking. That relationship is the > dependency between the levels. > > Magnus
You'll have to explain your last sentence. Why is thinking only in relationship with patterns in the dependency between levels? Marsha > > > > > On 2010-07-19 04:59, [email protected] wrote: >> [Marsha] >>> Pluto is real if man measures it to be real, and if man measures >>> a muon to be real it becomes real. >>> It seems to me thinking has a relationship within that measuring process >>> all the way down. >> >> . >> I think the view that "everything that is measured real is real", >> has the same weakness as "whatever is verified as true is true". >> Sooner or later you have to admit your mistake. >> >> >> >> >> >> Craig >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
