Hi Marsha,

I'll take your understanding, philosophical insights and wisdom over DMB's 
arrogant nastiness and presumption of intellectual superiority any day.    
Next thing you know he'll call you a racist. 

Platt



On 22 Jul 2010 at 12:22, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:12 PM, david buchanan wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Marsha said: 
> > ...because RMP has clearly stated that there are many truths, and in 
> > regards to philosophy a position can be both true and false, and that truth 
> > is relative, I am correct to stick with what I know from my own experience.
> > 
> > dmb says:
> > 
> > Well, Marsha, as I keep pointing out, you have confused Buddhism with 
> > fascism.
> 
> Marsha:
> Do you think so?
> 
> 
> > Your understanding of the MOQ turns it into relativist nightmare. Like I 
> > said to John, you have confused diversity with promiscuity. I mean, wanting 
> > lots of different opinions is not the same thing as dropping our standards 
> > of quality to accommodate every opinion. That's just intellectual 
> > debauchery. 
> 
> Marsha:
> And like I've said to you, what you think matters little to me, though I wish 
> you well.
> 
> > 
> > "If relativism signifies contempt for fixed categories and those who claim 
> > to be the bearers of objective immortal truth ... then there is nothing 
> > more relativistic than Fascist attitudes and activity... From the fact that 
> > all ideologies are of equal value, that all ideologies are mere fictions, 
> > the modern relativist infers that everybody has the right to create for 
> > himself his own ideology and to attempt to enforce it with all the energy 
> > of which he is capable." (Benito Mussolini, 1921)
> 
> Marsha:
> Geez...  
> 
> 
> > Part of the problem is that you define static patterns as ever-changing. 
> > That's like defining stable to mean unstable. It's just plainly wrong. 
> > There is DQ and there is sq and "ever-changing" is a good description of 
> > just one of them and it isn't the latter. There is a 50-50 chance of 
> > getting that right but you blew it. 
> 
> Marsha:
> You think about however it works for you.  I will continue to explore my 
> own understanding.
> 
> 
> > This is a philosophy forum, you know? Killing static intellectual patterns 
> > has it's place but not during a philosophy discussion. That would be like 
> > touting the virtues of fasting during a feast or expressing the joy of 
> > dance at a funeral. It's just insensitive to the point of obliviousness. 
> > It's like pooping in the punch bowl. You might feel liberated but that's 
> > not enlightenment. You're using "meditation" as cover so you don't have to 
> > play by the same rules as everyone else. 
> >  
> > You're too enlightened for philosophy? Jeez, I think you flatter yourself 
> > way too much.
> 
> 
> Marsha:  
> I'm not enlightened, but I am wise enough to know I don't know.  

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