On Jul 25, 2010, at 9:53 AM, X Acto wrote:

> 
> 
> 
>> dmb continues:Notice how the narrator's speech is full of cliches and 
>> platitudes while Phaedrus is philosophical and far more interesting? It's 
>> hard 
>> to miss, unless one wants to miss it that is. I mean, quoting the narrator 
>> is 
>> risky business at best. He's the kinda the villain of the story, you know? 
>> Chris 
>> knows he's a phony and a pale shadow of his former self and that's what's 
>> killing him. The narrator is whoever you want him to be. He's spineless and 
>> everything he says is calculated to please. Unlike Phaedrus, he's dominated 
>> by 
>> social level values. Check out Pirsig's introduction to 25th anniversary 
>> edition 
>> (1999). That's how Pirsig characterizes him there and he does so in order to 
>> prevent misinterpretations of the book. 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Marsha:
> If you watch again the latest dvd, RMP states clearly he doesn't really 
> remember 
> much before his hospitalization.  Wouldn't those years before the 
> hospitalization be the Phaedrus years?  
> 
> 
> 
> Ron:
> If he doesent remember much," Phaedrus" is mostly fiction then.
> 



Marsha:
Often, Ron, I think Marsha is mostly fiction.  How much fact is there in 
re-membering 
the past?  I don't know for myself, so I would never judge with any certainty 
for 
someone else.  


 
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