Hi Platt 27 July you wrote:
> Good explanation why some appear fearful of your MOQ stance. Thanks. > P.S. Prepared to be pelted with personal attacks and negative > innuendos. Thanks It's been quite a shoot-out of late and can this continue this way? (I ask myself) Neither party is running out of ammo it seems Well, at least - after ten plus years - we have honed out the basic difference between the MOQ and the false kind that poses as the MOQ but is SOM in a thin Q guise. One may call it the SOQ, but we have enough acronymes. Thanks also to Marsha, Mary and Mati, I know you all have your own unique reason for going against the distorters. Bodvar > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:30 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Arlo > > > > 25 July : > > > > [Bo] before > > > Arlo has become a mean little Jr. of late and his "agony" over us > > > strong interpreters i a little pathetic... > > > > [Arlo] > > > Arlo's only "agony", I can assure you, is the embarrassment felt > > > at watching your blind quest for "interpretative legitimacy" lead > > > you all to new depths of dishonesty and distortion. > > > > Hold your fire. Pirsig's must be the strangest case in the Western > > cultural history by 1) presenting a system that will abolish > > academical philosophy (philosophology) by 2) postulating that it - > > with a welter rational disciplines - is the last and topmost level > > in a system of levels that violently resist being moved down inside > > the hierarchy. > > > > Now, the MOQ is no level, but its treatment of the topmost - > > intellectual - level is at least as humiliating for intellect as > > intellect's own was for the social level. This intellect vs. society > > struggle isn't over and intellect's resistance to the MOQ will be no > > less protracted , Not by violence, but by intellect's means, it will > > not allow itself to be reduced from thinking itself to the static > > value of a thinking subject/objective world. > > > > Intellect wants by all means to keep the MOQ an intellectual pattern > > as such safely inside its domain and you - intellect's henchmen - > > have already given us a show of its methods no less fierce than the > > social- intellect struggle which is waged on society's home turf - > > violence. The intellect vs MOQ will be with intellect's non-lethal > > weapons, but no less effective. > > > > > This whole "strong interpreter" nonsense is just part and parcel > > > of that. Once again, Bo, take your argument to its only valid > > > ground, champion the cause that YOUR ideas are BETTER than > > > Pirsig's. > > > > See, you want it all shifted to an inter-academic dispute, harmless > > for intellect that happily sees countless "intellectual patterns" - > > i.e. ideas - pop up and compete, but there is just one MOQ and it is > > the one that reduces intellect from its role in SOM - as mind - to > > SOM itself, so this your trap we will not wander into. Thank you.. > > > > > So long as you remain trapped in your prison of interpretative > > > legitimacy, however, you are all just proving how intellectually > > > worthless the SOL truly is. > > > > Granted, the MOQ is intellectually worthless - just as worthless as > > intellect looked to society in its time. It's outright dangerous and > > its creator Phaedrus was treated accordingly by intellect's immune > > apparatus. The recuperated Pirsig did no longer dare forward the > > strong MOQ only the watered-down version where the intellectual > > level had been reduced to - on one page SOM itself, to the next page > > where it is back to SOM's mind. > > > > > And when that intellectual vacuum produces nothing but the > > > dishonest talk-radio bombast that it has, you are damn straight > > > that anyone with any shame whatsoever will become "mean". > > > > All this is expected from intellect's quarters, but as long as the > > MOQ holds water I'm not very worried. Phaedrus blasted the trail and > > as you - intellect's henchmen - are committed to argue from MOQ's > > premises you are forced to land in the MOQ. > > > > Bodvar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
