Marsha said to dmb:
'Shop Class as Soulcraft'?  I've read Kant, Nietzsche, Hume, Descartes and 
others when I was taking philosophy classes as an undergraduate student and 
many others since, am I going to need to read 'Shop Class as Soulcraft' too?

dmb says:
Crawford's book is well worth reading but I posted a quote and offered an 
explanation of it simply to make a point. I also think it's pretty neat that 
the Crawford quote refers to a point Pirsig made in his book. I'd be happy if 
you simply read the post and got the point. This is a simple matter of joining 
a conversation, a matter of grappling with some common ideas, ideas already in 
circulation. I'm sure others have made the same point too and in a very real 
sense it hardly matters WHO said it or WHERE it was said. Your job is simply to 
understand WHAT is being said. This is just as true if you're a waitress, a 
mechanic or a philosopher. Since you have apparently missed the point - again - 
I'll repeat it.

"Pirsig's mechanic is, in the original sense of the term, an idiot. Indee, he 
exemplifies the truth about idiocy, which is that it is at once an ethical and 
a cognitive failure. The Greek idios mean 'private', and an idiotes mean a 
private person, as opposed to aperson in theior public role - for example, that 
of a motorcycle mechanic. Pirsig's mechanic is idiotic because he fails to 
grasp his public role, which entail, or shold, a relation of active concern to 
others, and to the machine. He is not involved. It is not his problem. Because 
he is an idiot.This still comes across in the related English words 'idiomatic' 
and 'idiosyncratic', which similarly suggests self enclosure. For example, when 
a foreigner asks him for directions, the idiot will reply idiomatically, rather 
than refer to a shared coordinate system. H ealso lacks the attnetive oopeness 
that seeks thing out in the shared world, as when Pirsig's mechanic 'barely 
listened to the piston slap before saying, 'Oh yea
 h. Tappets'. At bottom, the idiot is a solipsist." (Matthew Crawford, "Shop 
Class as Soulcraft", page 98.)  dmb explained: Rather than refer to a shared 
coordinate system - for example the english language - the idiot will respond 
with idoisnycratic meanings and defintions of her own. She might, for example, 
define 'patterns" as "amorphous" or use "static" to mean "ever-changing". This 
is a cognitive failure as well as ethical failure. Plus it's really annoying 
and it's likely to draw unflattering comments from anyone who sees this idiocy. 
 
                                          
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