Greetings again Arlo,
Once I start to define or analyze the MoQ I've dropped squarely into the Intellectual Level. Marsha On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:36 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > > Hi Arlo, > > For me the MoQ is Reality = Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned > experience,) > nothing more. > > > Marsha > > > > > > On Aug 5, 2010, at 7:04 AM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote: > >> [Arlo had asked] >> If it is not an inorganic or biological or social or intellectual pattern of >> value, what is it? >> >> [Bo] >> "It" is probably the MOQ. >> >> [Arlo] >> So the "inorganic level" is NOT a "pattern of value" at all? Or is it another >> kind, a new kind, of pattern of value? >> >> [Bo] >> And Mary had replied A pattern of values is exactly that - a pattern of >> values. >> >> [Arlo] >> Which ought to be plain enough. >> >> [Arlo] >> Oh gee. Duh. So when I ask what kind of "pattern of value" it is, and the >> reply >> is "its a pattern of values", you think that is an answer? >> >> What if I asked, "according to the MOQ, what kind of pattern of value is a >> rock?", and Mary answered "its a pattern of values", you think that has >> explanatory power?? >> >> [Bo] >> The inorganic level is just what it says: a level. What kind of nonsense is >> this? >> >> [Arlo] >> So the "levels" are NOT patterns of value at all? You are saying that, >> according to the MOQ, there is DQ/SQ/Levels? >> >> [Bo] >> The MOQ is out of SOM - of intellect >> >> [Arlo] >> So the "levels" are patterns of value of a new, higher, level above >> intellect? >> >> [Bo] >> ...it's just the "embers" of intellect to ask like Arlo does what the various >> levels' or patterns' "nature" is. >> >> [Arlo] >> Yeah, I know, the best way to avoid a question is to claim "its SOM!". The >> Great Ostrich move, I get it. >> >> [Bo] >> The MOQ is the DQ/SQ metaphysics. Full stop! >> >> [Arlo] >> So the MOQ is not a "pattern of value" at all? How does something exist, >> according to the MOQ, if it is not a "pattern of value"? >> >> But move away from "the MOQ" (we'll get there), and go back to just "the >> inorganic level". Are you saying that "levels" are NOT patterns of value at >> all? >> >> According to the MOQ, everything except DQ is a "pattern of value", in fact >> "SQ" is restatable as "patterns of value". If everything is SQ(patterns of >> value) except DQ, then where are these "levels" that are not patterns of >> value? >> >> Time for another Great Ostrich? >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
