On Aug 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, John Carl wrote:
>
> John: Intellectual volleyball? Cute. I like it. Everybody has their own
> set moves, their own particular patterns. Now, you often offer us, this
> "unpatterned experience/patterned experience" as your own particular
> favorite leap up and spike over the net. Which from my perspective, sends
> the ball out of bounds.
>
> "out of bounds", in intellectual discourse, means it's irrational. When you
> say "unpatterned", you can't really mean NON-patterned. There is no such
> thing as "non-patterned". However I do believe there is experience that is
> non-intellectual. That is, there is patterning that is transcendant of
> intellectuality and I suspect that is what you mean by the experience to be
> found in meditation.
>
> Since we define the boundaries of play as "rationality", then, any
> experience which describes "transcendant of rationality" as being part of
> the game is a logical contradiction. And yet, the MoQ does exactly this and
> thus, you make a good point. However you can only leap up and spike if
> somebody sets it up for you.
>
> Do you see the problem?
>
> me neither. But it's starting to take a fuzzy shape in my mind.
>
"Science values static patterns. Its business is to search for them. When
non-conformity appears it is considered an interruption of the normal rather
than the presence of the normal. A deviation from a normal static pattern is
something to be explained and if possible controlled. The reality science
explains is that 'reality' which follows mechanisms and programs. That other
worthless stuff which doesn't follow mechanisms and programs we don't pay any
attention to.
See how this works? A thing doesn't exist because we have never observed it.
The reason we have never observed it is because we have never looked for it.
And the reason we have never looked for it is that it is unimportant, it has no
value and we have other better things to do."
(LILA, Chapter 11)
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