Hi Dan
It's always good to have you contributing to MD and Bodvar and the
others will be kept in their SOL cage from now on so that the more
reasonable members can discuss Pirsig's MoQ without the incessant SOL
chatter and interruption that has been a feature of many discussions.
I've tried nice and I've tried fair and it didn't work.
So now I'll try the alternative.
I generally dislike being forceful and authoritarian but that doesn't
mean that I won't be, as certain members may well discover in the future.
It's good to have an open forum but as with having an open mind it's not
good having it so open that your brain falls out! Bo (and the rest of
the SOL posse) will not be given the leeway they have enjoyed in the
past. It had a shot, it took it and it missed so it's time to move on to
new things.
Cheers
Horse
On 17/08/2010 03:26, Dan Glover wrote:
Hello everyone
Thank you, Horse. I'm afraid that I took my frustration with Bodvar
Skutvik out on Magnus and John. I am sorry, guys. It's just that a
person spends so much time working on a post and then Mr. Skutvik
comes along to tell me what a blithering idiot I am for not seeing
things his way, hijacks the discussion, and next thing you know, SOL,
SOL, SOL.
It is wonderful to have an open forum like you have created here,
where we can discuss different ideas, whereever the discussion leads.
But there are those who insist on taking advantage. Too bad. All it
does is ruin the discussion and cause frustrations that really have no
place here.
Anyway, I think you have shown remarkable patience under difficult
circumstances and hopefully this will get Mr. Skutvik's attention.
Nothing else has.
Thanks again,
Dan
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Horse<[email protected]> wrote:
[FROM THE OWNER AND ADMINISTRATOR OF MOQ_DISCUSS]
Imagine this sound
kerrr-ACK
Do you know what that sound is?
On 15/08/2010 17:12, [email protected] wrote:
<SNIP>
Thanks Platt, this put things in the right perspective, I feel a bit
sorry
for Horse being caught with his pants down and his liberal attitude so
badly tainted.
It's the sound of the camel's back breaking. And here it goes again:
Anyway, the SOL refuses to go away for the obvious reason
that it IS the idea that the MOQ is founded on and all threads on the
MOQ will end there.
So for the last 10-12 years or so I've been very reasonable, very liberal
and very much inclined to discuss my decisions relating to the running of MD
and my reward for this has been to have a few members of MD at various times
shove shit in my face.
So it stops here.
And it stops now.
I made what I thought was a reasonable request in a reasonable and polite
way and what I get is Bo being insulting, piss-taking and derogatory. In
addition to this, he also continues to ply the same shit that I've asked him
to cease in the same way that he has continued to do so since the last time
I asked him. Obviously making a request (polite or otherwise) as the
administrator and owner of MD is not the way to deal with those on the list
who think I'm some sort of fucking sap!
As has been pointed out in the past, this is my house and my rules so from
now on when I make a request that someone stops whatever behaviour I feel is
inappropriate then that behaviour stops. Immediately. If it doesn't then
you're out - no argument, no second warning. Re-instatement will only occur
when an apology to myself and the forum is received, as well as an
undertaking that the behaviour will not be repeated. If it is repeated then
removal will be permanent.
If you think it's amusing or clever to take the piss out of me, criticize
me, accuse me of censorship or generally make unpleasant, derogatory or
insulting remarks for doing my best to do my job (and do it properly and
well) as administrator of this list then you will discover that you won't be
participating in MD discussions any longer.
Similarly, if you want to play stupid word games with me over one of my
decisions or try and provoke or antagonise me for doing my job as
administrator you'll be removed without any warning whatsoever.
Hopefully, if you've read this far, you'll get the gist of what I'm saying -
My House, My Rules.
If you don't like any of the above then now is the time to re-consider
whether you want to continue to participate in these discussions.
If you don't feel that you can continue under these conditions then leave.
You used to have an administrator who tried to be reasonable and fair and
tried to take everybody's opinion into account but, unfortunately, due to
the abuse of a few members (not just Bo) that person has now retired and you
have me in his place.
So Bo, I hope you're reading this because here's what you're going to do:
If you want to discuss the SOL/SIM/SOLAQI (or whatever new acronym you think
up) then you make it _very_ _very_ clear that it is your interpretation.
You do not imply that the SOL has anything to do with Pirsigs version of the
MoQ.
You do not state that the SOL interpretation is the one true version of the
MoQ - or state anything similar.
You do not interject into a conversation with your SOL nonsense. You start a
new thread.
You do not post more than twice a day with regard to the SOL interpretation.
The above also goes for those who support your position.
I would also greatly appreciate others not provoking Bo or his supporters as
this is unfair and unreasonable. I, and the majority here, are sick to death
of this incomprehensible and pointless nonsense, so the less that you peddle
it the happier most people will be.
I'm sorry that it's come to this as it's not the way I would have preferred
but that's the way it is from now on.
Thank you all for your time
Horse [Administrator]
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