Horse,

I've come at this through the Buddhist route, where the big delusion is 
subjects and objects and their independent existence.  It seems to me 
the Intellectual Level being of a SOM foundation is a very legitimate 
subject for discussion.

imho


Marsha  





On Aug 16, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Horse wrote:

> [FROM THE OWNER AND ADMINISTRATOR OF MOQ_DISCUSS]
> 
> Imagine this sound
> 
> kerrr-ACK
> 
> Do you know what that sound is?
> 
> On 15/08/2010 17:12, [email protected] wrote:
>> <SNIP>
>> Thanks Platt, this put things in the right perspective,  I feel a bit sorry
>> for Horse being caught with his pants down and his liberal attitude so
>> badly tainted.
> 
> It's the sound of the camel's back breaking. And here it goes again:
> 
>> Anyway, the SOL refuses to go away for the obvious reason
>> that it IS the idea that the MOQ is founded on and all threads on the
>> MOQ will end there.
>> 
> 
> So for the last 10-12 years or so I've been very reasonable, very liberal and 
> very much inclined to discuss my decisions relating to the running of MD and 
> my reward for this has been to have a few members of MD at various times 
> shove shit in my face.
> So it stops here.
> And it stops now.
> 
> I made what I thought was a reasonable request in a reasonable and polite way 
> and what I get is Bo being insulting, piss-taking and derogatory. In addition 
> to this, he also continues to ply the same shit that I've asked him to cease 
> in the same way that he has continued to do so since the last time I asked 
> him. Obviously making a request (polite or otherwise) as the administrator 
> and owner of MD is not the way to deal with those on the list who think I'm 
> some sort of fucking sap!
> 
> As has been pointed out in the past, this is my house and my rules so from 
> now on when I make a request that someone stops whatever behaviour I feel is 
> inappropriate then that behaviour stops. Immediately. If it doesn't then 
> you're out - no argument, no second warning. Re-instatement will only occur 
> when an apology to myself and the forum is received, as well as an 
> undertaking that the behaviour will not be repeated. If it is repeated then 
> removal will be permanent.
> 
> If you think it's amusing or clever to take the piss out of me, criticize me, 
> accuse me of censorship or generally make unpleasant, derogatory or insulting 
> remarks for doing my best to do my job (and do it properly and well) as 
> administrator of this list then you will discover that you won't be 
> participating in MD discussions any longer.
> Similarly, if you want to play stupid word games with me over one of my 
> decisions or try and provoke or antagonise me for doing my job as 
> administrator you'll be removed without any warning whatsoever.
> Hopefully, if you've read this far, you'll get the gist of what I'm saying - 
> My House, My Rules.
> 
> If you don't like any of the above then now is the time to re-consider 
> whether you want to continue to participate in these discussions.
> If you don't feel that you can continue under these conditions then leave.
> 
> You used to have an administrator who tried to be reasonable and fair and 
> tried to take everybody's opinion into account but, unfortunately, due to the 
> abuse of a few members (not just Bo) that person has now retired and you have 
> me in his place.
> 
> So Bo, I hope you're reading this because here's what you're going to do:
> 
> If you want to discuss the SOL/SIM/SOLAQI (or whatever new acronym you think 
> up) then you make it _very_ _very_ clear that it is your interpretation.
> You do not imply that the SOL has anything to do with Pirsigs version of the 
> MoQ.
> You do not state that the SOL interpretation is the one true version of the 
> MoQ - or state anything similar.
> You do not interject into a conversation with your SOL nonsense. You start a 
> new thread.
> You do not post more than twice a day with regard to the SOL interpretation.
> 
> The above also goes for those who support your position.
> 
> I would also greatly appreciate others not provoking Bo or his supporters as 
> this is unfair and unreasonable. I, and the majority here, are sick to death 
> of this incomprehensible and pointless nonsense, so the less that you peddle 
> it the happier most people will be.
> 
> I'm sorry that it's come to this as it's not the way I would have preferred 
> but that's the way it is from now on.
> 
> Thank you all for your time
> 
> Horse [Administrator]
> 
> 
> 
> 
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