DMB said

"It destroys the meaning of "social" to extend it down into ant
colonies and wolf packs because the defining feature of society is its
opposition to the biological level. Pirsig points out that the
distinctions between these levels are not very original and in this
case the line between the social and the biological was pretty clearly
drawn by Freud. Not that he invented it, but he gave it shape in our
time"

Exactly, agreed. My point that if we allow common usage of the word
social to confuse our understanding of the social level, we may as
well give up, which I'm not planning to.

Krim, let's start another thread on the "privileged human position"
(or not) ... it's a red-herring here.

Ian
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