Hi Krimel, I would only seriously question your disparaging remarks about Buddhism. I don't find it bland at all. Emptiness is like when "The Tao is called the Great Mother: empty yet inexhaustible, it gives birth to infinite worlds. It is always present within you."
But it is impossible to play pin the tail on the donkey with you, so I will not quibble with your point-of-view. Besides you make me laugh, with joy and delight, and I love you for that. Marsha On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Krimel wrote: >> [Krimel] >> Or this one: Pirsig's real contribution could be taken as synthesizing >> Darwin and Lao Tsu. Much of my vitriol arises from the realization that he >> or at least his apologists don't quite seem to get either of them right. > > Marsha: > The MoQ is based on Darwin and the Tao? > > [Krimel] > I thought so until I got here. > > [Marsha] > Anyone besides you think that this is so? > > [Krimel] > Maybe. > > [Marsha] > First, evolution has changed considerably since the days of Darwin's > publications... > > [Krimel] > That's what theories do. They evolve. > > [Marsha] > ...the evolution of species is quite different than the evolution of static > patterns. > > [Krimel] > Not really. Species are static patterns. "Species" is a probabilistic > distribution of traits. A mean moving through time. > > [Marsha] > Second, RMP has equated the MoQ as much with Buddhism > (Emptiness/conventional reality) as with the Tao, more in fact. > > [Krimel] > His does seem to have bought the sizzle and ignored the steak. > > [Marsha] > RMP does not mention any relationship between yin/yang and the MoQ. > > [Krimel] > Read the book many times. > Made his personal copy by hand. > But did understand a word of it? > I found that hard to accept. > It remains a source of disappoint. > > [Marsha] > And a thorough study of the correlation between the Tao's good and the MoQ's > good has not yet been firmly established, > > [Krimel] > The Tao talks about the Way of Virtue, the path of harmony and balance. Good > is not something to be firmly established. Harmony is the balance that > sings... in tune... to the beat... > > Betterness is a whim. > A distraction > A transition > A figment of the future > Always to come never here > > [Marsha] > while the relationship between Emptiness(Nothingness) and DQ has been > clearly stated. > > [Krimel] > Muddled pandering to dreamers. > > [Marsha] > And to my mind, a moving away from suffering is a move towards betterment. > > [Krimel] > At the price of infinite indifference? > Better the peaks and troughs of a thrill ride than the stagnation of a > placid pool of bland detachment. > > [Marsha] > While I find your 6-point MoQ interpretation interesting, it represents > only your opinion and nothing more. > > [Krimel] > I make no other claim for it. > >> [Marsha] >> ...I gladly whip the both of you if you were before me. >> >> [Krimel] >> If you could provide maybe a few details on how you would go about this, I >> might actually be interested, Mistress. > > [Marsha] > You are sooooo fresh!!! > > [Krimel] > A fantasy of anticipated excess. > There're the peaks and troughs > There's the meaning of what's fresh. > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
