On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Krimel <[email protected]> wrote: > [Platt] > No doubt Pirsig would agree that evolution is not due to "supernatural > intervention." > > [Krimel] > It is not at all clear to me that some of Pirsig's interpreters here agree > with this. You for instance. If, for example, one speaks of Quality as a > driving "force" then it is hard to see what other kind of force one could > be > talking about. > > [Platt] > But, his questions still haunt conventional evolutionists. > "But why do the fittest survive?" > > [Krimel] > This question haunts only the terminally dense. Organisms survive to > reproduce. >
So why reproduce? Oh, I see. There is no why. Cop out. > > [Platt] > Followed up by, "Why, for example, why > should a group of simple, stable compounds of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and > nitrogen struggle for billions of years to organize themselves into a > professor of chemistry? What's the motive?" (Lila, 11) > > [Krimel] > Again the simple answer is that there is no "why". There is no "struggle". > We live in an environment filled with diverse forms of matter energized by > a > rich source of energy. All of it is driving toward entropy or stasis. To > get > there it follows the path of least resistance. The fertile combination of > energy and matter present in this time and place make the path of least > resistance twisted and tortuous. Most of the sun's energy finds this path > easy. It is a straight line out into space. But the sunlight that finds its > way here bounces around, gets trapped in chemicals energizing them causing > them to interact in complex ways. > > But the "motive," if you insist upon there being such a thing, is to find > the path of least resistance. > If that's the motive, the path of least resistance would be to remain inert.. > > [Platt] > Until Pirsig's questions are answered other than by his theory of a moral > imperative, the conventional explanation of evolution remains incomplete. > > [Krimel] > Until you actually understand the theory it will always seem incomplete. > Once you do understand it, it will also seem incomplete but in ways that > don't make you sound like an idiot. > So Pirsig is an idiot. Is that your position? > . > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
