must be nice to have a justification to behave anyway you wish in lieu of some hard reflection.
----- Original Message ---- From: MarshaV <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 5:15:05 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Social level for humans only Hey Ron, at night before I retire I consider some of my thoughts for the day, and mostly find them to be: not this, not that. On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:45 PM, X Acto wrote: > > > There is no "you" in my mind > only bitter rhetoric and bullshit hypocritical opinions > > Having the nerve to chastize someone elses illusions > and projections as dillusional while hoisting your own > as truth. > > > what an asshole > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: MarshaV <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:34:25 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] Social level for humans only > > > On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:32 PM, X Acto wrote: > >> >> >> Marsha said: >> >> >> John, >> >> I'm not talking about what was said while quilting in a group, and I >> not talking about your psychological gender nonsense either. >> I'm talking about the power men used through the Church of Religion >> and the Church of Reason to define woman, and their place within >> society. Women were not even permitted to vote until the last >> century. Women can project valuable and interesting ideas too if >> they were not for centuries prohibited from doing so on threat of >> death. >> >> Your crack about 'neti, neti' is pure foolishness. It represents more >> than you understand, but of course, I get only what you project a >> woman might think. Probed and understood? Fuck probed and >> understood. Probe and understand your own illusions instead >> of erecting a tower of babel. >> >> >> Ron: >> Talk about hypocritical bullshit! >> " The power men used through the Church of Religion >> and the Church of Reason to define woman, and their place within >> society." illusion after illusion, projections of projections. >> >> Bitter and small. > > > > Marsha: > Yes, Ron, I'm bitter and small in your mind. > > > > > > > >> >> On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:49 PM, John Carl wrote: >> >>> Marsha said, >>> >>> >>>> Agree, but I don't know that women are privileged to be in the position to >>>> intellectualize (define) what men are like. >>> >>> >>> >>> From the dawn of time, women have sat in circles and done exactly that, >>> Marsha. And they probably get a lot closer to the truth of the matter than >>> men would find comfortable. >>> >>> While men, when they get together, freely admit they don't understand women. >>> So undoubtedly there's differing approaches. >>> >>> For one example, it seems that men try much harder to put themselves out >>> there. Men are outwardly projectionistic, thrusting their ideas and >>> thoughts out at the world. Whereas women seem to relish being inward and >>> secretive and mysterious, going all "not this, not that" or "fuck your >>> questions" to avoid being probed and understood. >>> >>> Dan Bern's question, "do you like me, or are you ignoring me?" is a question >>> that takes balls to ask. >>> >>> Big balls. >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5t2Qr0q80 >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
