Marsha, As I've said many times, I think the problm is with the label "intellectual level" - when intellect is defined as objectivism. I believe that art does not manifest on the social, biological or inorganic level, but is a function of 4th level advancement and art transcends the mere intellect. Intellect is a species of art, not the other way around.
But it's hard to argue this point in the whole SOL framework, since the debate between Bo's position and the MoQ orthodoxy both assume that "intellectual" is at the top o' the heap, evolutionarily speaking. I have such issues with this view, that perhaps I might offer the words of someone else besides myself to butress what I think the issue is: Pardon me for repeating, but I think it bears repeating. "Meanwhile let us lay aside, once for all, the petty human Philistinism that talks of the evolution of humanity out of so-called dead nature,' as if it were necessarily a vast progress from 'lower' to 'higher,' or from the meaningless to the world full of meaning. What value human life may get we in a measure know. But we certainly do not know that the nature-experience whose inner sense is not now communicated to us is in the least lower or less full of meaning. Our human evolution is, as it were, simply the differentiation of one nature-dialect, whereby a group of finite beings now communicate together. We have no right to call the other tongues with which nature speaks, barbarous, because, in our evolutionary isolation from the rest of nature, we have forgotten what they mean." John, trying to save the Moq from petty human Philistinism On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:53 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Greetings, > > > Thanks to dmb I have slightly revised my definition: > > Intellectual Static Patterns of Value are reified concepts and the rules > for their rational analysis and manipulation. Intellectual patterns > process > from a subject/object conceptual framework creating false boundaries > that give the illusion of independence as a “thing” or as an “object of > analysis.” The fourth level is a formalized subject/object level (SOM), > where the paramount demand is for rational, objective knowledge, > which is free from the taint of any subjectivity. > > > > Thanks, > > Marsha > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
