Hi Marsha, thanks for the chance to pointificate. On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 1:07 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I do not agree. Intelligence is a species of art, but I do not see > intelligence > the same a intellect/intellectual. I understand intelligence as something > like: > > Intelligence: > The skillful use of whatever patterns (organic, biological, social & > intellectual) > a given situation requires, or possibly to use no pattern, the truly > dynamic, > if nothing else is suitable. I use the term differently, myself. For me, intelligence is the cleavage between inorganic and organic, and intellect is the cleavage between social and the fourth level. Intellect is the kindergarten of the fourth level. This is important to my understanding because it ties in realistically with the levels. What is life but that which exhibits intelligence? Even an amoeba is smart enough to come in out of the acid, as opposed to lumps of matter which just lay there and take dissolution. That's what I term "intelligence". But when objects are conceptualized, we enter the realm of intellect and reifying these conceptualizations I'd call SOM, the kindergarten of intellectualism and the position "no serious thinker holds for long." But of course, all this is my own private interpretation. I stick to it only til I find something better. Intellectual patterns offer the most freedom and that is a good thing, but > intellectually patterns harbor a big flaw: they do not understand Quality. > > Right. To perceive Quality requires consciousness. I think it makes sense to define consciousness as "that which percieves Quality" and recognize it as a continuum extending mysteriously. I don't concieve consciousness as a pattern, that sounds reductionistic. I see consciousness as that which perceives patterns, in a creative way. Thanks marsha, John Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
