Horse, Having been on the receiving end of one of dmb's trashy little posts full of insults, I was a bit sensitive to the tactic. But I get your message loud and clear. It won't happen again on my part.
Marsha On Sep 13, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Horse wrote: > [Message from MD Administrator] > > I agree completely with Adrie here. > Emails that are sent off-list should remain off-list. > If they are to be posted to the list then ALL participants should agree to > their being published on MD AND they should run it past me first. > If there is some particular reason that you feel something should be be > brought from the private to the public domain (threats or whatever) then > please contact me with your concerns. > > > Horse > > > > On 13/09/2010 14:32, MarshaV wrote: >> >> It is fully my responsibility for posting publicly the 'Unlike Marsha's post, >> this really is OFF LIST' post. >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:18 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: >> >>> Sorry to read all of this , Jc, i worked with my hands all my life , and i'm >>> aware of how harsh life can become for some people. >>> My life's expierience tells me that it al begins with only one loose end, >>> they are added up, loose end above loose end. >>> On a certaint moment in time, it will generate a cascade of events ,called a >>> mid-life crisis. >>> But it is not per-se a bad thing to talk about it but even in this optic you >>> have to keep the balance. >>> The big questions of life.....sooner or later everybody will meet them, one >>> of my basic rules in life is simple as hell, >>> "do not throw in a lot of show elements in life, it will backfire >>> always",.And i don't mean to say that i'm the keeper of wisdom. >>> >>> But to use some phrase of Pirsig, throwing sand in the bulls eyes won't >>> work. >>> You have to reformat yourself this very day man,and its sad to say, but you >>> will have to carry some past backpacking in the future. >>> The clausule's you are mentioning used by the banks , are about the same as >>> here, THEY ARE NEGOTIATABLE,its mostly possible to reformulate the loan, and >>> end up with a streched-out downpayment-term. it is often done here. >>> >>> The usage of the red tagging argument is also tried-out here, wont work, >>> this counter argument doesn't settle the debts to the bank. >>> They call it a solid as Titanic-argument here in Europe.Renegotiate the >>> boundary's and properties of the loan man. >>> >>> Septic tanks are unimportant until they overflow........needless to comment. >>> Move on again on your own force to carry the the day man, i shit you not. >>> And i strongly dissaprove the usage for unclear purposes of list-ommitted >>> mails. >>> Mails that are meant to be kept confidential, have no right of existence in >>> the public domain.This is unnaceptable. >>> >>> I'v stayed away from the conflict DMB, Jc,i try to keep my options open as >>> long as possible.try to settle the conflict Jc, without cheap >>> use of relaying mails in the public domain. >>> >>> Adrie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2010/9/12 John Carl<[email protected]> >>> >>>> A story Marsha? >>>> >>>> Sure. I like Dave and the Ronettes, just fine, but I'll tell you a story >>>> about Limbo. >>>> >>>> Limbo is a place. As a place, the best description I have for it is "not >>>> this, not that". I'm not real familiar with Catholic theology, but as I >>>> understand it, Limbo describes where pagans . and unchristened babies go >>>> after they die. Sounds like my kind of people, actually. I think good >>>> Catholics are supposed to pray their loved ones out of limbo and into >>>> heaven. But I always wondered why. Limbo sounds like the middle way to >>>> me. >>>> >>>> When I say I'm living in Limbo, I mean my property, my home of 18 years, my >>>> old miner's cabin which dangles over the diggins behind the house, and >>>> fronts onto HWY 49. If I stand in my front yard I can hear Harleys and >>>> Semi >>>> Trucks going by. If I stand in the back I'm bordering on BLM land, >>>> thousands of acres of it, below the level of an 80 foot cliff that shunts >>>> sounds over my head and leaves me in peace. I live on the knife edge of >>>> ambiguity. This can be maddening, or frustrating or quite liberating, >>>> depending on how you wanna look at it. A couple of events have conspired >>>> to >>>> bring the knife edge of ambiguity to a razor sharp hone. >>>> >>>> First, on Sept. 2nd, Lu was issued a ticket by Nevada County to appear in >>>> court on criminal charges. These charges concern the condition of our >>>> property and septic disposal. >>>> >>>> At the same time, JP Morgan Chase has somehow "lost" our modification >>>> documents, which they say gives them the power to renegotiate our mortgage >>>> modification. I hear stories all the time about such antics. How the >>>> government gives money to banks to make up their losses and foolishness. >>>> How the banks take the money, and keep the property, in the hopes of >>>> milking >>>> more money out of these "financial instruments". Good luck with that. >>>> Sooner or later, something real needs to happen. >>>> >>>> Yesterday a shelf, burdened with books fell down and I had to pick up the >>>> books. I found one I didn't even know I had, it was from so long ago - a >>>> thin brown book of poetry by Gary Snyder - >>>> >>>> "Some critic tried to put me down-- >>>> 'your poems lack the Basic Truth of Tao' >>>> And I recall the old-timers >>>> Who were poor and didn't care. >>>> I have to laugh at him, >>>> He misses the point entirely, >>>> Men like that >>>> Ought to stick to making money." >>>> >>>> Between the bank and the county, who both stick my home in Limbo, I find >>>> the >>>> perfect stand. To the county I say, "Hey, it's not even certain that it's >>>> my property. Go find JP Morgan/Chase and ask him to cut the grass, get rid >>>> of the unregistered vehicles and ancient school bus moldering in apple >>>> orchard." To JP Morgan Chase I say, "hey, why should I sign your >>>> modification agreement when the property isn't even livable? The county >>>> has >>>> red-tagged it and here is the supporting documentation to prove what I >>>> say". All threats cancel each other out and just thrusts me deeper into >>>> limbo. >>>> >>>> Pray for me, then. Not to leave limbo for heaven, but to turn Limbo into >>>> heaven, without interference from demons. >>>> >>>> John >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> parser >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > — Frank Zappa > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
