I believe the issue was offliist emails. - m
On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Ian wrote: > And Marsha you just aimed a "trashy little insult" at dmb. You got a personal > problem, take it offline, to the moderator ... Or a confidant. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 13 Sep 2010, at 17:00, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Horse, >> >> Having been on the receiving end of one of dmb's trashy little >> posts full of insults, I was a bit sensitive to the tactic. But I get >> your message loud and clear. It won't happen again on my >> part. >> >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 13, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Horse wrote: >> >>> [Message from MD Administrator] >>> >>> I agree completely with Adrie here. >>> Emails that are sent off-list should remain off-list. >>> If they are to be posted to the list then ALL participants should agree to >>> their being published on MD AND they should run it past me first. >>> If there is some particular reason that you feel something should be be >>> brought from the private to the public domain (threats or whatever) then >>> please contact me with your concerns. >>> >>> >>> Horse >>> >>> >>> >>> On 13/09/2010 14:32, MarshaV wrote: >>>> >>>> It is fully my responsibility for posting publicly the 'Unlike Marsha's >>>> post, >>>> this really is OFF LIST' post. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 13, 2010, at 9:18 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry to read all of this , Jc, i worked with my hands all my life , and >>>>> i'm >>>>> aware of how harsh life can become for some people. >>>>> My life's expierience tells me that it al begins with only one loose end, >>>>> they are added up, loose end above loose end. >>>>> On a certaint moment in time, it will generate a cascade of events >>>>> ,called a >>>>> mid-life crisis. >>>>> But it is not per-se a bad thing to talk about it but even in this optic >>>>> you >>>>> have to keep the balance. >>>>> The big questions of life.....sooner or later everybody will meet them, >>>>> one >>>>> of my basic rules in life is simple as hell, >>>>> "do not throw in a lot of show elements in life, it will backfire >>>>> always",.And i don't mean to say that i'm the keeper of wisdom. >>>>> >>>>> But to use some phrase of Pirsig, throwing sand in the bulls eyes won't >>>>> work. >>>>> You have to reformat yourself this very day man,and its sad to say, but >>>>> you >>>>> will have to carry some past backpacking in the future. >>>>> The clausule's you are mentioning used by the banks , are about the same >>>>> as >>>>> here, THEY ARE NEGOTIATABLE,its mostly possible to reformulate the loan, >>>>> and >>>>> end up with a streched-out downpayment-term. it is often done here. >>>>> >>>>> The usage of the red tagging argument is also tried-out here, wont work, >>>>> this counter argument doesn't settle the debts to the bank. >>>>> They call it a solid as Titanic-argument here in Europe.Renegotiate the >>>>> boundary's and properties of the loan man. >>>>> >>>>> Septic tanks are unimportant until they overflow........needless to >>>>> comment. >>>>> Move on again on your own force to carry the the day man, i shit you not. >>>>> And i strongly dissaprove the usage for unclear purposes of list-ommitted >>>>> mails. >>>>> Mails that are meant to be kept confidential, have no right of existence >>>>> in >>>>> the public domain.This is unnaceptable. >>>>> >>>>> I'v stayed away from the conflict DMB, Jc,i try to keep my options open as >>>>> long as possible.try to settle the conflict Jc, without cheap >>>>> use of relaying mails in the public domain. >>>>> >>>>> Adrie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/9/12 John Carl<[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> A story Marsha? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure. I like Dave and the Ronettes, just fine, but I'll tell you a story >>>>>> about Limbo. >>>>>> >>>>>> Limbo is a place. As a place, the best description I have for it is "not >>>>>> this, not that". I'm not real familiar with Catholic theology, but as I >>>>>> understand it, Limbo describes where pagans . and unchristened babies >>>>>> go >>>>>> after they die. Sounds like my kind of people, actually. I think good >>>>>> Catholics are supposed to pray their loved ones out of limbo and into >>>>>> heaven. But I always wondered why. Limbo sounds like the middle way to >>>>>> me. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I say I'm living in Limbo, I mean my property, my home of 18 years, >>>>>> my >>>>>> old miner's cabin which dangles over the diggins behind the house, and >>>>>> fronts onto HWY 49. If I stand in my front yard I can hear Harleys and >>>>>> Semi >>>>>> Trucks going by. If I stand in the back I'm bordering on BLM land, >>>>>> thousands of acres of it, below the level of an 80 foot cliff that shunts >>>>>> sounds over my head and leaves me in peace. I live on the knife edge of >>>>>> ambiguity. This can be maddening, or frustrating or quite liberating, >>>>>> depending on how you wanna look at it. A couple of events have conspired >>>>>> to >>>>>> bring the knife edge of ambiguity to a razor sharp hone. >>>>>> >>>>>> First, on Sept. 2nd, Lu was issued a ticket by Nevada County to appear in >>>>>> court on criminal charges. These charges concern the condition of our >>>>>> property and septic disposal. >>>>>> >>>>>> At the same time, JP Morgan Chase has somehow "lost" our modification >>>>>> documents, which they say gives them the power to renegotiate our >>>>>> mortgage >>>>>> modification. I hear stories all the time about such antics. How the >>>>>> government gives money to banks to make up their losses and foolishness. >>>>>> How the banks take the money, and keep the property, in the hopes of >>>>>> milking >>>>>> more money out of these "financial instruments". Good luck with that. >>>>>> Sooner or later, something real needs to happen. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yesterday a shelf, burdened with books fell down and I had to pick up the >>>>>> books. I found one I didn't even know I had, it was from so long ago - a >>>>>> thin brown book of poetry by Gary Snyder - >>>>>> >>>>>> "Some critic tried to put me down-- >>>>>> 'your poems lack the Basic Truth of Tao' >>>>>> And I recall the old-timers >>>>>> Who were poor and didn't care. >>>>>> I have to laugh at him, >>>>>> He misses the point entirely, >>>>>> Men like that >>>>>> Ought to stick to making money." >>>>>> >>>>>> Between the bank and the county, who both stick my home in Limbo, I find >>>>>> the >>>>>> perfect stand. To the county I say, "Hey, it's not even certain that >>>>>> it's >>>>>> my property. Go find JP Morgan/Chase and ask him to cut the grass, get >>>>>> rid >>>>>> of the unregistered vehicles and ancient school bus moldering in apple >>>>>> orchard." To JP Morgan Chase I say, "hey, why should I sign your >>>>>> modification agreement when the property isn't even livable? The county >>>>>> has >>>>>> red-tagged it and here is the supporting documentation to prove what I >>>>>> say". All threats cancel each other out and just thrusts me deeper into >>>>>> limbo. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pray for me, then. Not to leave limbo for heaven, but to turn Limbo into >>>>>> heaven, without interference from demons. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>>> Archives: >>>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> parser >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production >>> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." >>> — Frank Zappa >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
