Horse, Who says "death panel" is propaganda? Who says it's "emotive nonsense?" I don't recall that this has "been over in the past." Can you refresh my memory? Thanks.
Platt On 13 Sep 2010 at 15:50, Horse wrote: > Platt > Would you please keep your 'Death Panel' propaganda away from the MD list. > We've been over this in the past and there is no need to bring this sort > of nonsense into the discussion. > If you have concerns about this then there should be no problem in > raising these concerns without the need to resort to this sort of > emotive nonsense. > All that will happen is that there will be a shouting match about 'Death > Panels', nothing will be gained or resolved and I will have to step in > and halt the conversation (which I will do) after much time and energy > is wasted. > > Horse > > On 13/09/2010 15:35, [email protected] wrote: > > All: > > > > In a conversation reported in the Guardian.uk scientists David Attenborough > > and > > Richard Dawkins were asked, "What is the most difficult ethical dilemma > > facing > > science today:? > > > > "DA: How far do you go to preserve individual human life? > > > > RD: That's a good one, yes. > > > > DA: I mean, what are we to do with the NHS? How can you put a value in > > pounds, > > shillings and pence on an individual life? There was a case with a bowel > > cancer > > drug -- if you gave that drug, which costs several thousand pounds, it > > continued life for six weeks on. How can you make that decision?" > > > > How would the MOQ make that decision? There's no direct answer that I can > > find > > in Pirsig's writings. I presume that if the patient was of sound mind and, > > from > > his past history, could potentially offer something of intellectual value > > during the remaining six or so weeks of his life, he should receive the > > drug. > > Otherwise, the social value of his life would rule which, as the Giant would > > judge, isn't worth a pence. Biologically the poor soul would be best > > recycled. > > > > What's really horrendous about the question is that in the NHS and now > > potentially in the U.S. such questions are all too real with life and death > > decisions in the hands of a government committee, i.e., a death panel. I > > don't > > know about you, but the thought of my government determining whether I live > > or > > die makes me sick. It's as if Joe Stalin was resurrected. > > > > When you surrender such personal decisions to the government, not only is > > your > > life threatened, but DQ, the creative force of evolution, dies, too. > > Perhaps, > > the MOQ answer is just that -- take responsibility for your own life so DQ > > can > > flourish. > > > > The interview is at: > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/11/science-david-attenborough- > > richard-dawkins > > > > Regards, > > Platt > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > -- > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > - Frank Zappa > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
