[Arlo edits] The second paragraph should read "Also, your initial example is flawed. A socialized human can, of course, survive as a social being without constant direct human interaction".
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 02:50 PM "ARLO J BENSINGER JR" <[email protected]> wrote: > >[Magnus] >Take the same person, which is supposedly dependent on the society in which it >lives, and remove it from that society. Will the intellectual patterns vanish? >Not a chance! That is *not* dependency. > >[Arlo] >There is a lot of evidence to support the contrary. Effects of the sort of >extreme isolation you mention have been shown to have massive degenerative >effects on human cognition, even after only a very short time. Psychological >breakdowns often begin with hallucinations and lead rapidly to severe >schizophrenic behavior. There is a reason why forced isolation is considered a >form of torture. While the long term effects of this sort of extreme isolation >can only be extrapolated from the rare case study involved a re-socialization >of someone desocialized for long amounts of time, it is clear the loss of >identity, animalistic behavior and a complete loss of higher forms of cognition >are fairly certain in these cases. > >Also, your initial example is flawed. A socialized human can, of course, >survive as a social being without continued direct human interaction, but its >more accurate for your analogy to ask, if a human infant (hypothetically, let's >say immediately after birth) were sent "to the moon" and survived in absolute >isolation from any social world until he say he was twenty, the question is >would he be "intellectual" in any way. From the studies involving feral >children, to the self-reporting of Helen Keller, the answer appears to be a >flat out no. This is supported by the MOQ's theory that intellect emerges out >of society and NOT biology. > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
