On 2010-09-17 23:36, ARLO J BENSINGER JR wrote:
[Magnus]
But why would the intellectual level be so much less dependent on lower levels
than all other levels are? And especially since we *can* find a better
dependency.

[Arlo]
I don't think that it is. Intellect rests upon a foundation of inter-nodal
neural nets (pardon the redundancy).

Yes, it's only that the neural nets are inside the brain, not between brains. I don't understand the reluctance to realize the similarity. That's the thing about stacks, they realize that similarity and recognize both instances as social patterns.

You are removing one node from all the
others, and expecting it to die immediately. Even if I sever my hand from my
body, the flesh and muscles and blood and cells in my hand continue to live for
quite some time.

In your analogy, you are imagining you are removing social patterns completely,
you are not, you are removing a node from the network. Of course residual
patterning will continue (albeit in decay) as the node dies. In other words,
you are not eliminate social patterns immediately when you transport a man to
the moon. Since the node on the moon was social, it will transport that with
it, in the same way the fish will transport biologicity with it when it is
removed from water.

So, what you're doing is to severely limit my possibility to refute your theory. You're making it a tautology. Not very scientific of you.

This is why in my example you ARE removing (well, preventing) the node from
ever being part of a social network. In this case you can see that no sociality
means no intellectuality, period. The node was never social, therefore it can
never function intellectually.

Then what about a computer? How is a computer able to support an intellectual pattern like a book, or a design specification for a new car? You can remove it from the internet, and it will support that book more or less forever. It will not decay. Even the first computer, very alone, extremely asocial, was able to represent intellectual patterns, ideas. How was that done?

If you only rely on a human society to support intellectual patterns, you will simply fail sooner or later. You just haven't dug deep enough.

        Magnus



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