Hi Mark

No sarcasm at all.

What does a weighing scale do?
It shows the effect gravity has on a mass.

What does a speedometer do?
It shows the effect of turning a magnet around inside a cup.

What does a light sensor do?
It changes resistance as an effect of incoming photons.

I really don't know if there are *any* measurement instruments that doesn't show some effect it feels.

But when you're measuring a length, you might be using some kind of ruler to compare the length you want to measure with the markings on the ruler. But I'm not sure that really counts as measuring, it's rather comparing the length to some kind of standard length. Hmm...

        Magnus







On 2010-09-19 19:54, 118 wrote:
Thanks, sometimes thought experiments are fun in the world of metaphysics,
sometimes they lead somewhere. sometimes not.  Not sure if you are sarcastic
about the feeling but not measuring, if not, I agree.  It may be difficult
to measure Quality through physics, however there are physics analogies that
sometimes help me Quantify it.

Cheers,
Mark

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Magnus Berg<[email protected]>  wrote:

Hi Mark

Great stuff, thanks for posting.

I was especially intrigued by your thoughts about the speed of light.
I've had similar thoughts about c and time and how they're
interconnected. One idea I had was that reality is rushing through time
at (in some sense) the speed of light, dragging mass behind it. This
could explain why there seems to be only matter and not any anti-matter.
Anti-matter would be pushed forward by the time, just as matter is
dragged behind it. Mainly layman thoughts, but it got me approaching it
from another direction and that's always fun.


You also said:

While we can never ever measure the
graviton, we can feel its affects.  So, we can feel the effects of
things that we will never be able to measure.  Happens all the time.


"Measure" vs "feel the effect".

Are they different? Isn't "feel the effect" what all measurements do?

Interesting.

        Magnus




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