Hi Ham, I forgot that we discuss on a paragraph by paragraph basis. To make things simple for myself, I'll just address your statement below concerning social communication.
Imagine, if you will, that you were alone in the world (as a human). You had no need for communication, no thoughts as words would cross your mind. You would be unaware that your consciousness even existed, because there would be nothing to mirror it. This would be a state of complete unity. Now, along comes another person, and you realize that your relation to the world has changed, because you get feedback. This is a human condition. A network of communication is set up between us, that network becomes our thoughts. This is what I mean by socialization. Only we as humans can share this network, because we have like minded brains (so to speak). This network has no meaning to a colony of ants, nor should it. The planets have no use for this network, it is just a human thing. And as such, this, what we call intelligence, is just one of many such things. But it is our very own network. Now, I have no idea what this has to do with Quality, but I'll figure it out. Cheers, Mark > I strikes me as strange when people define the sense of otherness as a > "social" function. To me this is a Pirsigian concept intended to circumvent > subjects and objects. Surely most of our experience deals with otherness, > whether it's communication, manipulation, ingestion, exploration, > construction, or just plain thinking. When Descartes developed his Cogito, > he was incommunicado, isolated from every external perception and belief, > focusing only on pure thought. It was enough to convince him that he > existed, he was the knowing subject, and the existence of everything > else--the 'content' of experience--was in doubt. > > > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
