Hi Marsha,
> Where did I say emptiness = Quality? I may have, but I don't remember? > > I think I wrote that RMP stated Emptiness and Quality are synonyms . I > think > I stated that they are analogies point in the same direction. > > I'm still wading through parts of this thread. It's gotten big! So big, that evidently you forget that you started the whole thing. To be exact, you said "equivalent", not "equals" and you can distinctify between those terms if you wish, but I'm warning you, if you do so I will accuse you of equivocating. :-) John > > Marsha > > > > > > > > But I make a fool of myself as well, to communicate to one and all, that > we > > are all fools. Not all fools equally, but equally all fools. And the > fool > > that understands her foolishness is wise. And for me to have enough > faith > > in your wisdom, to point out your foolishness to you, then I guess I'm > not > > calling you a fool, I'm calling you wise. > > > > So... No! > > > > Another interesting part of that video, was the way he mentioned in his > task > > of interpreting the physicist for the Dalai Lama, was that at the end of > the > > day, the physicist reports going home and reifying his wife and kids, > even > > though he knows they don't actually exist, objectively speaking. In > other > > words, reification is even more inevitable than drinking and picking up > bar > > lades, and using "it's a reification" as argumentative refutation is no > more > > adequate an argument than saying "it's only an analogy, ya know." I > mean > > really. duh. Everything is. > > > > > > John Laughing Fool > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:23 PM, John Carl wrote: > >> > >>> Marsha, listen to the last part again. That last couple of minutes. > >> I've > >>> transcribed it for others who can't be bothered to wade through 8 or so > >>> minutes of excellent rhetoric" > >>> > >>> "The two radical poles- that which is absolutely objective and that > >> which > >>> absolutely subjective, are null sets, they're equally empty. Now where > >> does > >>> that leave us? The foolish person says 'I get it - Nothing exists- > >> Nihilism > >>> - foolishness. What I want to do, metaphorically, is take out a little > >>> knife and pffft - (pop their balloon). I want to bring them back. > Yes, > >>> absolutel objectivity and absolute subjectivity - empty. So where is > >>> reality to be found? The entanglement between." > >>> > >>> There is your synonym for Quality, my dear: The Entanglement Between. > >>> > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 9:01 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> I think it is acceptable within the MoQ to consider Emptiness > equivalent > >> to > >>>> Quaiity... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Emptiness & Quantum Mechanics (8 minutes) > >>>> by B. Alan Wallace > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > http://web.me.com/ksnowsb108/B._Alan_Wallace_Podcasts/Podcast/Entries/2009/2/7_Emptiness_%26_Quantum_Mechanics.html > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Bio: Dr. Wallace, a scholar and practitioner of Buddhism since 1970, > >> has > >>>> taught Buddhist theory and meditation worldwide since 1976. Having > >> devoted > >>>> fourteen years to training as a Tibetan Buddhist monk, ordained by H. > H. > >> the > >>>> Dalai Lama, he went on to earn an undergraduate degree in physics and > >> the > >>>> philosophy of science at Amherst College and a doctorate in religious > >>>> studies at Stanford. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>>> Archives: > >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >>>> > >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>> Archives: > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> > >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >> Archives: > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
