Hi John, Yes, a good question. Lately I have been studying the Cabala; just superficially so as to see if there are any tools I can use to further my understanding of Quality. The mathematical notion of language is indeed interesting, and has led many to mystical insight. Whether they have discovered such insight, or created it, is a question. If we are the sum total of a math equation (pun?), then perhaps the much older stars have created such meaning. Whether such a notion is useful is where I try to use the razor.
Mark On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:53 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Mark, > > My friend Bill had this book called "Gospel in the Stars" and according to > this book, the very plan of salvation - the whole virgin birth, etc, was > spelled out in story form by the grouping of the constellations and this > explains why we have the variations of the story in various early > civilizations. > > I didn't quite buy that whole premise, but I thought it was an interesting > question concerning the earliest man's attempts to make meaning out of what > he saw in the heavens - how this influenced his mythos from the beginning. > I'll google it... see if I can find a link. Well, there are a lot of them. > Evidently it's not little-known. I remember the book used a lot of tthe > same astrological symbols, but with different interpretations. > > Does meaning come from us? Or does it come from the stars? A good > question. > > John > > > > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 8:31 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > OK, I was just asking for clarification. By saying we are > constellations, > > one has to assume that there is something creating such constellations. > > Like making a bear out of stars in the heavens. There really is not a > > bear > > (I don't think) but it takes an ordered mind to create such a thing. > What > > such words denote to me is that you were saying that Quality was creating > > such order. I didn't have a problem with this, it's as good a premise as > > any. Thus my question for clarification. But if you say no, then I need > > to > > reinterpret your use of constellations. I am fine if you want to move > on, > > I > > am just looking for clues. > > > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Marsha: > > > No, Mark, I've decided to let you do the talking. If your point is a > > > creator, talk away. If your point is language, I image you can say > > > something interesting about that too. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 2010, at 2:10 AM, 118 wrote: > > > > > > > OK then, you are talking about a creator. Why don't you just come > out > > > and > > > > say it. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Oct 10, 2010, at 5:46 PM, 118 wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Marsha said > > > >>> I'm not lying. Were just constellations of static patterns of > value. > > > I > > > >>> understand that. > > > >>> > > > >>> Mark asks: > > > >>> A constellation requires an outside observer to connect the points. > > > Are > > > >> you > > > >>> saying that there is somebody outside creating our constellations? > > Or > > > >> are > > > >>> you misusing words? > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> Marsha suggests: > > > >> Go for it! > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
