Arlo to Mark:
Again, its like the woman who wanted "creationism" in school... nobody else's
"creationism", mind you, just HERS. This defines Tea Baggery to the "Tea" (as
it were).
Arlo on Oct 21:
"...and how long do you think it will be before another religion creeps into
the holes they make and starts imposing itself on them?
Andre:
I have been reading some of the stuff in this thread. I do not know some of the
players mentioned, nor
the intricacies of the US constitution. I do however see parallels with what is
happening here in the Netherlands and it is a bit worrying.
Earlier I have also indicated that my experience of the US is non-existent
(apart from news reports and hearing rationalizations of US activities around
the globe) but that I gather that ninety-five percent of Americans believe in
God and possibly an equal number do not believe in government...or rather...put
up with it so long as it does not make itself felt. (a bit like a very good
referee in a sporting match).
I think that a belief in god arose out of in- and organic patterns of value and
the belief in government arose out of social/intellectual patterns of value.
Both are, in the MOQ, social patterns of value but as shown, their source is
very different.
God is considered an authority, Government is considered an authority.
Following Arlo's experiences, god as an authority, is prized as number one. The
vehemence, conviction and absolute sense of righteousness is worrying. The
extremity of belief in authority to this degree reminded me of the research
done by Adorno et.al. after WWII in an attempt to make understandable the
atrocities, the incomprehensible cruelties and justifications committed by
Germany which is renowned, respected and admired for its idealist philosophy.
It is a rather long intro and I apologize. Two factors coincided: patriotism
and the adherence and unshakable belief in an Authority ( of the organic/social
kind) mainly found in a conservative, obedient frame of mind leading
[inevitably?] to a logical conclusion: Fascism.
Here is the link and intro:
The*authoritarian personality*is an influential theory of personality
developed byUniversity of California, Berkeley
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_California,_Berkeley>psychologists,Else
Frenkel-Brunswik
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Else_Frenkel-Brunswik>,Daniel Levinson
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Levinson>, andNevitt Sanford
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevitt_Sanford>and the German emigre
sociologist and philosopherTheodor W. Adorno
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_W._Adorno>, in their 1950 book of
the same name. The personality type is defined by nine traits that were
believed to cluster together as the result of psychodynamic, childhood
experiences. These traits areconventionalism
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventionalism>, authoritarian
submission, authoritarian aggression, anti-intraception,superstition
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition>andstereotypy
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypy>,power
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_%28philosophy%29>and "toughness,"
destructiveness andcynicism
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynicism>,projectivity
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection>, and exaggerated
concerns oversexuality
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sexuality>(sexual repression).^[1]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_personality#cite_note-0> In
brief, the authoritarian is predisposed to follow the dictates of a
strong leader and traditional, conventional values.
The authors of/The Authoritarian Personality/, having escaped from
Europe during WWII, became interested in the study ofanti-semitism
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-semitism>. They advertised for
volunteers and administered a battery of questionnaires. They selected
the most anti-semitic and least anti-semitic of the volunteers and
discarded the mid-group. They then contrasted the remaining two groups,
coming up with theF-scale <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-scale>, which
measures the basic traits of the authoritarian personality.
Recently,John Dean <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dean>made use of
the theory to analyze the contemporary political climate in his
book/Conservatives without Conscience
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatives_without_Conscience>/. The
updated refinement of the authoritarian personality concept is the
concept ofRight-wing authoritarianism
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism>brought fourth
byRobert Altemeyer <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Altemeyer>in 1981.
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