Hi Marsha, OK, got it. Thanks.
The reason I ask into process is that as a scientist I am interested in forming a concept based on transcription, translation, and assembly. As you probably know, this is the genetic model, and, as above so below. That is, DNA to RNA (transcription), RNA to protein (translation), and protein to organism (assembly). Yes, it is only yet another concept for metaphysics, but the biological model is only a concept as well. For me, concepts make me feel like I understand, they widen the structure of my assembly-like thinking and make it more interesting. Interesting is good. More on this later after I have made dinner. I have some hungry mouths to feed. Mark On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:34 AM, MarshaV <val...@att.net> wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I didn't think much of of the web pages. For me decontextualize means > removing and isolating a process from it's interdependencies to make it > an object of analysis. > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:55 PM, 118 wrote: > > > Hi Marsha, > > Thanks for your help in my search. I found the following web page on > > decontexualization. > > > > http://www.unm.edu/~devalenz/handouts/decontext2.html > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > Cheers, > > Mark > > > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:20 AM, MarshaV <val...@att.net> wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Mark, > >> > >> Here is how I interpret, based on how they function, the Intellectual > >> (SOM) Level: > >> > >> > >> The Intellectual Level, the fourth level, is comprised of static > patterns > >> of value such as theology, mathematics, science and philosophy. The way > that > >> these patterns function is as reified concepts and the rules for their > >> rational analysis and manipulation. Reification decontextualizes. > >> Intellectual patterns process from a subject/object conceptual framework > >> creating false boundaries that give the illusion of independence as a > >> “thing” or an “object of analysis.” The fourth level is a formalized > >> subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for rational, > >> objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any subjectivity > like > >> emotions, inclinations, fears and compulsions in order to pursue, study > and > >> research in an unbiased and rational manner. > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> > >> Marsha > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:40 AM, MarshaV wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Correct interrupted to be interpreted. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:16 PM, 118 wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:09 AM, MarshaV <val...@att.net> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:44 AM, 118 wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> inferred that you were reasoning that Quality was analogous to not > >> this, > >>>>>> not that. Clearly I was mistaken. You were simply stating that > >> Quality > >>>>> can > >>>>>> not be described with words. OK, I get it. How is it then that you > >>>>> discuss > >>>>>> it? > >>>>> > >>>>> Marsha: > >>>>> The point is I don't talk about it. Using intellect to talk about > >> Quality, > >>>>> reifies it, > >>>>> and it is not this, not that. I experience it as unpatterned, and > >>>>> patterned flow, > >>>>> after that nothing fits well. If you want to talk about Intellectual > >> Level > >>>>> patterns, > >>>>> or Social Level patterns, or Biological Level patterns, or Inorganic > >> Level > >>>>> patterns, I think there is lots to consider and discuss. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> The point is that while you do not talk about it, you certainly write > >> about > >>>> it, unless you are in the wrong forum. Your description of experience > >> is > >>>> shorthand at best There are at least four words there that need > >>>> interpretation (and one of those is not "I", which can also be > >> included). > >>>> So, let's talk about the expression of quality in the subjects you > >>>> reference above. You can consider it not really talking about Quality > >> if > >>>> that makes more sense to you. > >>>> > >>>> Mark > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Mark, > >>> > >>> The Dynamic aspect of Quality is unknowable, indivisible, undefinable. > >>> > >>> Static patterns of value are ever-changing, relative, impermanent > >>> habit that is able to be conceptualized. > >>> > >>> The four levels are interpreted and defined with slight differences > >>> dependent on an individuals past static pattern history. > >>> > >>> > >>> Marsha > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> > >>> > >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >>> Archives: > >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> > >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list > >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > >> Archives: > >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > >> > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
