Ham to Alex, Mark, Andre [Adrie mentioned]: I can accept "observation" as a synonym for "experience" in delineating or actualizing essents (objects).However, I cannot comprehend how observation can occur without an "observer".
Andre: Here is the full Annotation Ham ( I noticed I had omitted the term 'intellectual'): Annotn. 65. 'It seems close but I think it is really very far apart. In the Copenhagen Interpretation, and in all subject-object metaphysics, both the observed (the object) and the observer (the subject) are assumed to exist prior to the observation. In the MOQ, nothing exists prior to the observation. The observation creates the intellectual patterns called “observed” and “observer.” Think about it. How could a subject and object exist in a world where there are no observations?' But when you say:'... I cannot comprehend how observation can occur without an 'observer'.' you are absolutely correct. But where does it say that? What the MOQ argues is that the observer and that which is observed arise together. You cannot have the one without the other. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
