On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:05 AM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <[email protected]>wrote:

> [Andre]:(quoting Pirsig)
>
>    'In the MOQ, nothing exists prior to the observation. The observation
> creates the
>
> patterns called 'observed' and 'observer'. Think about it. How could a
> subject and object
>
> exist in a world where there are no observations?' (Annotn 65).
> -------------------------------
> (Adrie.)
>
> Nothing exists prior to...,
> I think this is completely correct, its a form of hyperrealism to recognize
> it, but the
> formulation does not restrict realism and reality to the moq only.
>
>
Hi Andrie,
If I read your sentence above using Nothing as a pronoun, then you are
describing Ham's Absolute Essence.  The description of what is before
differentiation is Nothing.  From Nothing comes the term Nothingness, which
is a real concept, not the absence of one.

Cheers,
Mark
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