Hi Platt

If SOM didn't exist before Pirsig named it (as you assert is the case) then how could DQ or SQ exist before the MoQ? The MoQ, DQ and SQ are introduced to the world in Lila which came out around 1990. SQ and DQ are part and parcel of the MoQ which didn't exist at the time that Pirsig had his peyote experience - which was prior to him creating ZMM or Lila. If neither DQ/SQ or MoQ existed at this time then critical thinking, not DQ or SQ, followed from the peyote experience and was part of the process which led to the creation of the MoQ and the DQ/SQ split.

Horse

On 29/10/2010 17:10, Platt Holden wrote:
Hi Horse,

I see the time line differently:

peyote-breakdown of static intellectual patterns allowing DQ to break
through to reveal a new pattern ->  thinking to name and latch new pattern ->
more responses to DQ ->  more thinking and latching ->  more responses to DQ,
etc., etc. ->  MoQ (DQ/SQ).

Platt


On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Horse<[email protected]>  wrote:


>    Hi Platt and Arlo
>
>  To be picky about this and given Platt's previous assertion that SOM didn't
>  exist until Pirsig described it, the time-line should be something like:
>
>  peyote-inspired revelation ->   critical thinking ->   MoQ ->   DQ/SQ
>
>  or something very similar. Neither MoQ nor DQ existed until after the
>  critical thinking stage!
>
>  Horse



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